Bevo + ZeroPark + Game Offers

[azgold]

I haven't used that tracker, but if &x3= is an additional subid you can manually change, then use "&x2={target}" instead of keyword.

Target will give you the URLs of the converting websites from the RON campaign. You don't need the keyword anymore because you're running a RON and not a keyword campaign.
If the keyword token you're using doesn't come from Zeropark, then ignore this comment

I had slipped keyword in there, thinking I would need that variable to start a more targeted, keyword campaign. ZP does offer {target}, if memory serves, although I'm not using their postback because I don't know where I'm supposed to put it. I already have the Bevo postback in SI.

Obviously, I still have a lot to learn.

 

[servandosilva]

You don't need to use Zeroparks postback if have it in your tracker. Now you just need to know the targets from Zeropark so you can pause/blacklist the ones not converting. You can check the targets in your tracker, but manually pause them at Zeropark.

 

[java]

Have you figured it out azgold? Knowing how subids work can be confusing at first.

Here's what I got from bevo support

Bevosubid flow

-Visitor view/clicks on your bevo tracking and is tagged with bevosubid (from step3 offer URL. http://trkur.com/tk?o=123&p=123&s1={bevosubid})
-Bevo will insert a unique numeric for each click.(Ex. &s1=789321)

-Peerfly stats will show all bevosubid's in your report. (Ex. If 789321 converted,
Peerfly will ping back your bevo postback URL and replace
"bevopostbackURL/?amount=%commission%&subid=%subid1%" with "bevopostbackURL/?amount=3.12&subid=789321)"

-Bevo stats will show a conversion for subid 789321 which you can see in visitor spy (https://affportal.bevomedia.com/tracker_click/visitor-spy/) and you will be able to see what converted in your bevo reports (keyword, geo, campaign, Adgroup, Advar, custom variables, Referral, Browser, OS, IP/ISP... )

 

[azgold]

You don't need to use Zeroparks postback if have it in your tracker. Now you just need to know the targets from Zeropark so you can pause/blacklist the ones not converting. You can check the targets in your tracker, but manually pause them at Zeropark.

All the campaigns are stopped. I used up all the funding and I'm not going to run any more until I get things flowing right. If I don't need ZP postback - awesome! Then I just need to figure out how to get the conversions to register! I know which sites got the most clicks and which game got almost all the conversions but I don't know which {target} or targets are responsible for the conversions.

 

[azgold]

Have you figured it out azgold? Knowing how subids work can be confusing at first.

Here's what I got from bevo support

Thanks, Java! I think one of the problems is that I used &subid=(I forget now) but not Bevosubid. Thanks for mentioning it!

Was away working in my dad's store today and have to again tomorrow but will sort this out on the weekend.

Once I get this whole link thing straightened out, should I do another RON? I'm sweating while awaiting someone's answer - I've never whizzed through so much money so fast, not even at the casino.

 

[servandosilva]

Thanks, Java! I think one of the problems is that I used &subid=(I forget now) but not Bevosubid. Thanks for mentioning it!

Was away working in my dad's store today and have to again tomorrow but will sort this out on the weekend.

Once I get this whole link thing straightened out, should I do another RON? I'm sweating while awaiting someone's answer - I've never whizzed through so much money so fast, not even at the casino.

Most of Zeropark optimization comes from targets and then a few things like OSes and browsers.
So, if you didn't gather any data here... yes, I'd do another RON with the proper tracking so you can optimize.

 

[azgold]

Most of Zeropark optimization comes from targets and then a few things like OSes and browsers.
So, if you didn't gather any data here... yes, I'd do another RON with the proper tracking so you can optimize.

Thx! Although, I was afraid you'd say that. $$$ I know it's necessary, though.

 

[cashmoneyaffiliate]

Wow really good follow along azgold.

Its unfortunate you lost $xxx with out getting any data in return, but on the up side it seems as if you have a real solid good converting offer.

I agree with what servandosilva said , you definitely need to run another RON campaign but absolutely make sure you track everything this time.

P.S. Dont worry about the lost $$$. You learned that tracking is important and that it is possible to get xyz offer to convert. Consider the experience part of the tuition fee you have to pay to get good at affiliate marketing.

 

[azgold]

Wow really good follow along azgold.

Its unfortunate you lost $xxx with out getting any data in return, but on the up side it seems as if you have a real solid good converting offer.

I agree with what servandosilva said , you definitely need to run another RON campaign but absolutely make sure you track everything this time.

P.S. Dont worry about the lost $$$. You learned that tracking is important and that it is possible to get xyz offer to convert. Consider the experience part of the tuition fee you have to pay to get good at affiliate marketing.

Thx, CMA. I know best dayparting times, geo, number of hits per target....the only thing missing is the conversion data (sorta important ). I also know it's gonna be some little thing that I did or did not do.

This time around, I will pause the campaign as soon as I see a conversion(s) in SI, just to make sure everything registered, before I let it continue.

Boy, once I FINALLY get this whole link thing figured out, I won't likely ever forget it! Guess that's good, anyway.

Yeah, about the lessons in all this, thank-you for saying that, it makes me feel a little better. I knew getting into this game that it would take some $$$, learning and hard work. Just didn't anticipate having such a problem/blind spot with a simple linking thingy. (technical term)

Oh, and I think you're right about the offer, seems pretty solid. I was surprised that out of the three games, the one I thought would do the least, got almost ALL of the conversions. So, I feel pretty good about that one.

 

[K]

Great to see you growing AZ, make sure you ask any tracking questions etc on here and get this back live asap - looks like you could be onto a winner!

 

[azgold]

Great to see you growing AZ, make sure you ask any tracking questions etc on here and get this back live asap - looks like you could be onto a winner!

Thx, K!

My AM got the network techie guys to format the links for me, so I will now set up one of the games with those for tracking and do a small RON to make sure everything is registering properly.

There was one very clear winner, so I'll go with that one for US traffic. Funny, only the last nine conversions showed up in Bevo (my fault, not Bevo's) and they all came on a Wednesday. I would have thought on a weekend, so I learned an interesting fact there. Mainly, that I shouldn't assume that visitors do what I would do.

I seriously need a special ed class for this tracking stuff.

 

[azgold]

Sooo, was going about setting up a new campaign in ZP - have done so, waiting for approval, and something very interesting happened....

Funded my account, was about to log out when I noticed that my money was going down rather quickly, kinda at the speed of light then I realized that the topping up of my account made my previous campaigns kick in. And guess what?

In less than a minute....

Yup, 10 more conversions. I love ZP! Also, it's a great offer.

Now. I'm still not ahead of the game, financially speaking. I made $15 but spent $22, as this was from the rotators that I put in place previously. My new campaign is for the winning game only and I'm very excited to see if this will continue to climb.

 

[K]

^You're onto a winner if you can set that up to track correctly and make adjustments!

 

[azgold]

^You're onto a winner if you can set that up to track correctly and make adjustments!

Yippee! Love the sound of "winner."

I've actually got the subids working correctly. I'd about given up on that because, despite all the wonderful help, I seem to be missing the tracking gene.

Note: Just checked my stats, spent $56.41 in seconds flat but NO more conversions. I had topped up with $100 yesterday but when those previous campaigns kicked in, they ate the rest. I can't afford to run like this much longer, so where do I go from here?

Do I continue to throw more money at it? Or use a different strategy?

 

[game333]

ZeroPark is fishy for some traffic source keep eating up your budget but not receiving any conversion.
Like traffic source

lima-had-B79J7yiI

Eat up 20% of my total budget and not receiving a single conversion, some receive around 1 conversion for every 100 to 400 visits.

 

[azgold]

ZeroPark is fishy for some traffic source keep eating up your budget but not receiving any conversion.
Like traffic source

lima-had-B79J7yiI

Eat up 20% of my total budget and not receiving a single conversion, some receive around 1 conversion for every 100 to 400 visits.

Does that necessarily mean that the traffic is 'fishy'? Could it be the offer, time of day, etc.? Did you do a RON, or some other type of campaign? How long did your campaign(s) run, was it long enough to gauge the quality of traffic? I'm seriously interested to know what you're basing this statement on. I don't want to spend any more money there if this is true.

I don't know if it will help you but I used Bevo for tracking and set it to EXCLUDE bot clicks, if that's what you're referring to.

Sorry, I'm not going to follow that link, so not sure what it is.

 

[game333]

Does that necessarily mean that the traffic is 'fishy'? Could it be the offer, time of day, etc.? Did you do a RON, or some other type of campaign? How long did your campaign(s) run, was it long enough to gauge the quality of traffic? I'm seriously interested to know what you're basing this statement on. I don't want to spend any more money there if this is true.

I don't know if it will help you but I used Bevo for tracking and set it to EXCLUDE bot clicks, if that's what you're referring to.

Sorry, I'm not going to follow that link, so not sure what it is.

I ran multiple offer with RON traffic and that traffic source pop up in 80% of my campaign an I have blocked it when I saw it traffic source from "lima-had-B79J7yiI"
Amazingly that this "lima-had-B79J7yiI" has around 3.5mil of traffic available, I got over 20,000 from them and 0 conversion. And that 20,000 traffic just eat up my budget instantly.
I mean some traffic source gives you conversion and some don't at all.
I have ran the offer for 1 month bro, not misleading you as I see you're serious with your work just like I do.
I mostly get conversion from traffic source with less than 2 to 3 traffic available thruout the day.
Which is pretty hard to scale since most big traffic source do not convert.

Why did you excluded bot clicks in the first place while ZeroPark has all statistic listed there?
E.g. If "lima-had-B79J7yiI" sent you 20,000 clicks and Bevo record only 5 clicks, then would you consider looking the stat on Bevo or ZeroPark?

 

[servandosilva]

I ran multiple offer with RON traffic and that traffic source pop up in 80% of my campaign an I have blocked it when I saw it traffic source from "lima-had-B79J7yiI"
Amazingly that this "lima-had-B79J7yiI" has around 3.5mil of traffic available, I got over 20,000 from them and 0 conversion. And that 20,000 traffic just eat up my budget instantly.
I mean some traffic source gives you conversion and some don't at all.
I have ran the offer for 1 month bro, not misleading you as I see you're serious with your work just like I do.
I mostly get conversion from traffic source with less than 2 to 3 traffic available thruout the day.
Which is pretty hard to scale since most big traffic source do not convert.

Why did you excluded bot clicks in the first place while ZeroPark has all statistic listed there?
E.g. If "lima-had-B79J7yiI" sent you 20,000 clicks and Bevo record only 5 clicks, then would you consider looking the stat on Bevo or ZeroPark?

This can happen on any traffic sources. Their main traffic targets might not be adecuate to your offer, so just block them and don't let them eat all of your budget1
If a target eats more than 2-3x times your offer payout and gets no conversion, blacklist/pause it.

 

[game333]

I am skeptical with ZeroPark, I tried the US traffic on different offer, sent 12,000 of traffic and 0 conversion.
But the funny thing is that it converts with other traffic source, is their US traffic really legit?
It seems like draining my money pretty quickly.

For example, your bidding is 0.005 and your $10 will be disappear in around 2 minute and 0 conversion.
Is that all 6 offer I select do not convert at all...? Skeptical to me...

 

[azgold]

Why did you excluded bot clicks in the first place while ZeroPark has all statistic listed there?
E.g. If "lima-had-B79J7yiI" sent you 20,000 clicks and Bevo record only 5 clicks, then would you consider looking the stat on Bevo or ZeroPark?

Excluded them because I don't much about bots, was afraid it was something bad. Plus one of the game offers I was running specified no bot traffic.

Are bots, in this case, a good thing?