ZeroPark weird traffic source URL

[Alistair Vermaak]

It's hard to say. All I can think is you need to create multivariates, test and eliminate badly performing landers. Filter non-delivering traffic sources. Check your performing geos and eliminate non delivering GEO's, check your platforms Android/iOS, etc, etc. Keep filtering.

 

[Mimini0147]

Total Spend: 184.34
Total Revenue : 188.89
Result : +4.59

lol.....
-using a lot of technic in landing page in order to not waste traffic, like "code my own small smartbanner features to show banner from MaxBounty's offers", "showing ogads content locker for some visitor's behavior", "add backbtn / popunder technic in my landing page"
-found & fixed a lot of problems like device didn't show/work very well with my landing page & javascript code,
-exclude few very bad perform country,
-added few more traffic source

 

[Mimini0147]

who are you working for?

? I have a 5:9 job as developper


I got about 200 clicks on maxbounty's banner and about 30 clicks on Ogads's content locker but got 0 conversions.
not sure if it will impact my main offer's CR, the problem with popunder traffic is people close very fast your pop window before they take look at your page, anyone knows how to improve this?

 

[Mimini0147]

No: I meant for yourself or the ad network

I got a 6% to 15% CTR on my adult popunders = outrageous visuals
You need to have something "eye-catching" creative (whatever that could be?)

But a lot of domain you got very high CTR but 0 conversions, so for me the Global CTR doesn't mean much...

This is my state after excluded a bunch of "weird/fake/underperform" domain, still need to improve CTR, but domain quality must be also good :

 

[TUNEDCLOUD]

On our Apache/Nginx deployments for our hosting clients we have an option in our Nginx configuration to use a 'test cookie' to validate traffic and eliminate bad bots... perhaps this is a solution you could use?

 

[Graybeard]

Well, the offer is selling -- most of the people (the 'traffic') ain't buying.
so;

1. you are not able to segment the people in that 'traffic'
2. much of that traffic is not people that might buy

 

[Mimini0147]

Those are porn sites -- what are you trying to sell?
Porn biz has gotten bad in the past 5 years -- I gave up on adult camsites (in their present form)

I took www5.iavmost.com off your image ...

barry@-DS-7:~$ dig www5.iavmost.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> www5.iavmost.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23055
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www5.iavmost.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www5.iavmost.com. 10 IN A 198.105.254.11
www5.iavmost.com. 10 IN A 198.105.244.11
;; Query time: 32 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar 22 15:42:37 EDT 2019
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 66

barry@-DS-7:~$ whois 198.105.254.11


NetRange: 198.105.240.0 - 198.105.255.255
CIDR: 198.105.240.0/20
NetName: SEARCHGUIDE
NetHandle: NET-198-105-240-0-1
Parent: NET198 (NET-198-0-0-0-0)
NetType: Direct Assignment
OriginAS:
Organization: Search Guide Inc (SG-63)
RegDate: 2012-07-10
Updated: 2012-07-10
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/198.105.240.0


OrgName: Search Guide Inc
OrgId: SG-63
Address: 1942 Broadway
Address: Suite 319
City: Boulder
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80302
Country: US
RegDate: 2012-06-26
Updated: 2012-06-26
Comment: Standard NOC hours are 7am to 6pm EST
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/SG-63

That is a search redirect -- I doubt any hit got to your landing page from that .
Do you want adult traffic from XXX type sites?

It's www5.Javmost.com, I'm promoting few Smartlink Adult Dating from some AdNetwork.
Earning are very unstable, sometime I got few conversion very fast , and sometimes I got 0 conversion for many hours.
Is this kind of phenomenon normal?

 

[Mimini0147]

Build some more funnel, whitch meke me think about how should we build a true high quality Landing Lage.
High Landing page CTR not mean high visitor quality

Funnel 1 : Pupunder ==> LP1 ==> LP3 ==>Offer page

Landing page 1 contain only one picture + CTA button,
I got 10% Global CTR. but only 2.51% of click reach to final offer page

------------------------------------------------

Funnel 2 : Popunder ==> LP2 ==> LP3 ==> Offer Page

Landing page 2 contains 6 difffrents type of adult gif pictures show randomly + few text lines, Global CTR are very similar, about only 2.5% Global CTR each picture.
But 15% of click reach to final offer Page. however, because of low global CTR, the total visitor reach to offer page are not very different than Funnel 1

------------------------------------------------
Funnel 3 : Push notif ==> LP3 ==> Offer Page

Landing page 3 with push notification, about 25% of click reach to offer page.



Total spend : 210USD
Total revenue: 225USD

Well, I have to says I didnt earn much of $, but I learned a lot of thing from this journey

 

[Mimini0147]

one of the network contacted me saying that 20% of my leads are fraud ... and they removed these leads from my account.

I checked these leads in my database but I really dont know where is the probleme... these "fraud" leads are come from same domains as other valid lead

 

[Graybeard]

scale=3;28.62/28
1.022
scale=3;57.45/54.18
1.060
scale=3;1.98/1
1.980
scale=3;32.81/17
1.930

keep 3&4

 

[Mimini0147]

And what attributes are stored in 'your database'?

• Are you capturing the IP addresses --
  
• have you backtracked them to their hosts and networks,
• are they in the tor exit node lists?

What domain they came from means little sometimes is my point.

I save all visitor's IP addresses, campaign id, the domain where they come from, country, device, career.

I do not track more than that, can you recommend me tools/services that allow me to make these tracks in your list?

thank you

 

[Mimini0147]

There are no 'tools' you need to understand machine code.
I can automate a host check on IPs.
$host <ip>
just make a bash script and loop that list -- print the results to a file -- that is the easy part actually
the hard part is having the experience to analyze the list
The logic and network knowledge I have never seen in some 'tool'.
Same as their is no a do it yourself 'Surgery Tool'

tor exit node lists are published -- do a search and find then like I had to.
The Internet contains a library of knowledge -- invest the time to learn what you need to know.


let me google that for you

ok... thanks, I just checked tor exit node lists, didn't find any IP belongs to them.
For backtrack to host & networks could you please show me some example?
This is some IP from fraud lead list:
51.15.122.236
68.183.66.165
167.99.248.246
159.89.110.114
159.89.102.183
46.101.240.184

thanks

 

[Simarjeet Singh]

The traffic source for these is sort of encrypted and that's why it looks weird but most of the traffic these guys get are either from bots or they buy it from other vendors.

 

[Graybeard]

So, who are you working for? That is the question I would ask myself.
So far, you have spent your time but at least got your hard cash back.
At least you are willing to invest in your education in this matter Nothing is free in life (usually).

They way I would see this is:

1. Fix the web interface problems
2. Find a better cost to reward situation -- explore new options

 

[Mimini0147]

Make your own bots


^^ you can only do 1000 lookups per day free otherwise get your wallet out
I have donated this in the past as charityware
you need to make this an executable on a LINUX system.
all datacenter servers 'bots' if you want to tag them that

barry@-DS-7:~$ ./ipinfo.sh
Pls enter your ip:
51.15.122.236
{
"ip": "51.15.122.236",
"hostname": "236-122-15-51.rev.cloud.scaleway.com",
"city": "",
"region": "",
"country": "FR",
"loc": "48.8582,2.3387",
"org": "AS12876 ONLINE S.A.S."
}
barry@-DS-7:~$ ./ipinfo.sh
Pls enter your ip:
68.183.66.165
{
"ip": "68.183.66.165",
"city": "Frankfurt",
"region": "Hessen",
"country": "DE",
"loc": "50.1167,8.6833",
"org": "AS14061 DigitalOcean, LLC"
}barry@-DS-7:~$ ./ipinfo.sh
Pls enter your ip:
167.99.248.246
{
"ip": "167.99.248.246",
"city": "Frankfurt",
"region": "Hessen",
"country": "DE",
"loc": "50.1167,8.6833",
"org": "AS14061 DigitalOcean, LLC"
}barry@-DS-7:~$ ./ipinfo.sh
Pls enter your ip:
159.89.110.114
{
"ip": "159.89.110.114",
"city": "Frankfurt",
"region": "Hessen",
"country": "DE",
"loc": "50.1167,8.6833",
"org": "AS14061 DigitalOcean, LLC"
}barry@-DS-7:~$ ./ipinfo.sh
Pls enter your ip:
46.101.240.184
{
"ip": "46.101.240.184",
"city": "Frankfurt",
"region": "Hessen",
"country": "DE",
"loc": "50.1167,8.6833",
"org": "AS14061 DigitalOcean, LLC"
}barry@-DS-7:~$

Thanks... my traffic source doesn't have the feature to block by IP. I will try to look more closely what are all these host

 

[Mimini0147]

I just learned that the network also uses their own prelander in their Smartlink, which makes the whole process very long for the visitor; and repetitive.
I asked to remove the prelander, maybe it can help to improvise CR.

Made 2 more funnel:

Funnel 4 : Popunder ==> LP4 =(1.05% CTR)=> LP3 =(42% CTR)=> Offer Page

Very high engagement after the visitor reach to LP3, but LP4 is pretty heavy for a visitor to complete process and arrive to LP3. Need to improve CTR in LP4, maybe Funnel 5 will be better

Funnel 5 : Popunder ==> LP1 ==> LP4 ==> LP3 ==> Offer
Needs more time to validate all CTR.


And then I exluded a lot of domain, now traffic has reduced a lot. With 0.30 $ / CPM I got only 3000 page view per day...

 

[Graybeard]

No: I meant for yourself or the ad network

I got a 6% to 15% CTR on my adult popunders = outrageous visuals
You need to have something "eye-catching" creative (whatever that could be?)

 

[Daceyank]

Why do you even tried to use all that mate ? It's trash of the trash of traffic and it's really not worth it to discover anything really. Concentrate on good targeted SEO, banner, e-mail, social and something like that, maybe even groups and forums, forget ppv and redirects.

 

[Graybeard]

Those are porn sites -- what are you trying to sell?
Porn biz has gotten bad in the past 5 years -- I gave up on adult camsites (in their present form)

I took www5.iavmost.com off your image ...

barry@-DS-7:~$ dig www5.iavmost.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> www5.iavmost.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23055
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www5.iavmost.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www5.iavmost.com. 10 IN A 198.105.254.11
www5.iavmost.com. 10 IN A 198.105.244.11
;; Query time: 32 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Mar 22 15:42:37 EDT 2019
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 66

barry@-DS-7:~$ whois 198.105.254.11


NetRange: 198.105.240.0 - 198.105.255.255
CIDR: 198.105.240.0/20
NetName: SEARCHGUIDE
NetHandle: NET-198-105-240-0-1
Parent: NET198 (NET-198-0-0-0-0)
NetType: Direct Assignment
OriginAS:
Organization: Search Guide Inc (SG-63)
RegDate: 2012-07-10
Updated: 2012-07-10
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/198.105.240.0


OrgName: Search Guide Inc
OrgId: SG-63
Address: 1942 Broadway
Address: Suite 319
City: Boulder
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80302
Country: US
RegDate: 2012-06-26
Updated: 2012-06-26
Comment: Standard NOC hours are 7am to 6pm EST
Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/SG-63

That is a search redirect -- I doubt any hit got to your landing page from that .
Do you want adult traffic from XXX type sites?

 

[Graybeard]

Oh, the bottom of the J was cutoff in that image ...

That smart link does not look too *smart* to me Bundle of confusion IMHO. I would want a smart link that filters the traffic with little if any action by the referred person -- that would make it smart ...

Well, the traffic's GEO hours may matter and you don't give a date range so if that is one day that volume might be representative. You need at least a few thousand actions to trend a segment with any accuracy.