where do i find these high paying CPL offers, which networks do you suggest, and will they allow small time guys like me to promote?
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Nic, btw what would you recommend a newby to start with? Bing or adwords? I've heard that adwords is very strick in terms of what it will allow you to advertise there, can you give example of offers that are allowed there?
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Good thinking - but the leads I generate via PPC such as Adwords, BING and FB are sold on an exclusive basis and the buyer tends to pay a premium to retain full re-marketing rights.
From an ROI perspective, that works out perfectly for myself as well so there is no need to recycle it.
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Adwords is always best - the terms aren't onerous as long as you don't deliberately try to break or circumvent them. But I never had a problem with getting my sites and campaigns approved.
As long as your sites are fully fledged micro-sites with terms, privacy, about and contact sub pages, you shouldn't have a problem in the major markets - just stay away from products that aren't allowed on Adwords like weapons, tobacco, drugs, etc.
Hope that helps
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You could tweak the wording of your agreement that they are exclusive / retain full remarketing rights for the specific vertical. Which you could then market other verticals and it would have no effect on the buyers business.
Nick, very useful thread!
Can you tell a bit more about how it is done? As far as i undrrstand for this php form to work you should be given special access and form to send leads to specific merchant system directly, sothis doesnt work for most offers inPF and such networks and you should be in direct relations with buyer?
Hi Nick,
Congrats about the results
Two questions:
Congrats about the results
Two questions:
- Which parts of the work do you outsource and what do you do yourself? Outsourcing - to what level of providers?ranging from inexpensive freelancer or fiverr to expensive local or global company)
- Work's a combination of doing what worked well for us before and learning to stay up to date. How and where do you keep up-to-date so that moving of your cheese won't hurt you?
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Hi Nick,
Congrats about the results
Two questions:
Great thread.
- Which parts of the work do you outsource and what do you do yourself? Outsourcing - to what level of providers?ranging from inexpensive freelancer or fiverr to expensive local or global company)
- Work's a combination of doing what worked well for us before and learning to stay up to date. How and where do you keep up-to-date so that moving of your cheese won't hurt you?
Hey Brad
1) Usually all the coding work and the web design part. That one can easily be outsourced as there's always very talented coders and designers out there who can build me a highly professional looking website that is both mobile and desktop optimised. But I do all the marketing - so the copy, the ads and everything surrounding the campaign itself I generally write myself as nobody is better at it than moi (in my humble opinion of course but hey, I pay for it so I want to do this one myself
) Besides, I want to keep control of all the USPs, messages, angles and the marketing strategy and I always suggest any affiliate never outsources this part of the campaign either You really want full control here!2) It's generally all about pushing your own envelope. If you have a site design that you know converts, then recycle it but adjust it to match your new product. The same goes for strategy and research. Market environments naturally change as well, so it is a constant process of evolving, moving forward and progressing with the times. But more importantly, a battle hardened veteran who's been sitting in the trenches in numerous battles can always draw upon his experience to win the war in the long haul
Nick
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badboy_nick
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Haha
You have to be more specific mate - are we talking "pay for play" type of girls ... or WAGS and groupies when on an alcohol-infused binge spree in the city
Nick
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Right - back on topic.
Anyone else have any more "serious" questions?
Anyone else have any more "serious" questions?
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Hey Nick,
What affiliate networks or lead-selling platforms can you recommend to start with Lead-gen?
What affiliate networks or lead-selling platforms can you recommend to start with Lead-gen?
Dooglers
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In my opinion, coming out even is great, anything more is amazing. Why? Here's an example:
Let's say you have a business that sells weight loss pills. You run a $1,000 Facebook ad for the offer, after implementing the Facebook pixel on the appropriate page, and generate $1,000 in revenue. At this point, you are break-even from this campaign, but if you look at the long-term, you've earned way more than just this $1,000 and made out way more than just break even. You've collected emails, leads, and the Facebook pixel has picked up on all those people that reached your page. So literally everything this information makes you is pure profit. The campaign may have only made $1,000 in the short-term, but can make you thousands more down the road now that it brought you all those targeted leads that showed interest in your service and you can re-target.
@Dooglers Yes that's correct and you learn alot of things also
But another problem is the risk. Risk that the supplier suddenly changes something, and instead of break-even it turns into a loss. Therefore I think you need a quite big profit margin, to offset losses that eventually will come. Question is how big margin you can have with Adwords / msn.
But another problem is the risk. Risk that the supplier suddenly changes something, and instead of break-even it turns into a loss. Therefore I think you need a quite big profit margin, to offset losses that eventually will come. Question is how big margin you can have with Adwords / msn.
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