Adult Banners Journey

[TrafficYoda]

Hi! after long chase doing popups and finally getting my first payout i need a break and did instagram for a while, making consistent money from instagram.

I want to go on to banners again.

What I need
-Adplexity Adult (can't afford yet)
-Advertisement (most of my cash are going in here)
-Good Banners (manually hunting but no banners seems to be good)
-Good Offers (Got some networks to split test)

Traffic Source//Network
-Secret
SOI Dating Offers/Cams

I chose a niche and tested 35 banners
Out 35 there was 2 banners that converted 4 times.
Whitelisted it but it seems like the banners are well beaten I see a drop of ctr fast. thus drop in conversions.

Gotta hunt for more banners, not easy to get some good ones manually
Got a vps on the country i want

Data in 7 Days

MILESTONE REACHED updated at FEB 23
$100 Per Day [O]
$200 Per Day [X]
$300 Per Day [X]
$400 Per Day [X]
$500 Per Day [X]
$600 Per Day [X]
$700 Per Day [X]​

 

[Graybeard]

Try finding some banners that cost you on a CPC (PPC) basis.
Paying CPM is a branding strategy today IMHO -- if banner blindness does not negate that banner value

 

[TrafficYoda]

Try finding some banners that cost you on a CPC (PPC) basis.
Paying CPM is a branding strategy today IMHO -- if banner blindness does not negate that banner value

I'm already doing cpc on banners it's 20% cheaper. on overall spend.
finding banners that convert is the key here. and it's killing me

 

[TrafficYoda]

Are you doing desktop or mobile?
I think that mobile is more *in yo' face* and most mobile users are not using ad blockers like desktop users <<that may help?
The downside is that mobile users will not buy many things ... especially adult.

I already doing Mobile less bot etc. and currently doing offers that are SOI, dating offers to be more exact.

 

[Graybeard]

Are you doing desktop or mobile?
I think that mobile is more *in yo' face* and most mobile users are not using ad blockers like desktop users <<that may help?
The downside is that mobile users will not buy many things ... especially adult.

 

[TrafficYoda]

Interesting, maybe try some desktop?
I am working with one of the dating sources of perhaps many of these Networks. They told me that they have had better luck with desktop users in Europe -- they are in central Europe. I was surprised to hear that!

I am going to start testing their platform this month.

interesting i was gonna scale into desktop when i find winning banners on mobile.

 

[affmarketer101]

Not bad in terms of CTR. I think you should run the campaign more, then it will break even.

 

[Graybeard]

Interesting, maybe try some desktop?
I am working with one of the dating sources of perhaps many of these Networks. They told me that they have had better luck with desktop users in Europe -- they are in central Europe. I was surprised to hear that!

I am going to start testing their platform this month.

 

[TrafficYoda]

Not bad in terms of CTR. I think you should run the campaign more, then it will break even.

Highly unlikely because the banners I run on this campaigns ctr dropped down to 0.08%
I need to find new banners
The banners that converted was already dying on day one. because it was only 0.16% which is low I expected at least 0.2% on day 2 it went down to 0.14 0.11 0.08 so and so forth. So it did 10 conversions on day one and slowly died down to 0 conversions

I made some banners by changing the banner images. ctr shot up to 1.6~2% but cr dropped down to 0% this showed that making banners is not an easy task and that i am not yet understanding the concept and that I need to get banners instead of creating them. Just wishing there is a way to know if the banner is working
But right now i need to hunt them through porn.

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE

I gave @Graybeard notes a thought. I took banners that were dying in mobile but was converting and took it to desktop and tables.

Here's the result
Real Promising - Today

Out of 6 variations that converted on mobile 5 variations converted
3 of the variations is doing green on the first day.

Now I stopped bad banners from running.
Took the good ones and started blacklisting bad zones, and whitelisting good zones.

Now, gotta find more banners....

 

[azgold]

Have you tried and tested different colours, headlines, CTA, etc. of your banners that were performing?

 

[TrafficYoda]

Have you tried and tested different colours, headlines, CTA, etc. of your banners that were performing?

I did try creating banners but it turned out really bad for me. nothing converted. Lost a lot of $$$ in a day.
I might try it again because when I did that I was only testing on mobile.
I might give it another go this round

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE
Turned Green
here are some of my data from last 3 days

Today

some variations stopped converting for two days these, I decided to stop them.
Right now only two variations are converting for me.
and clicks are dying each day. I decided to loosen my blacklisting method, decided to wait for more data before blacklisting.

What I am doing
-Taking working banners and zones, bidding higher see if that brings more clicks thus more conversions
-Got rid of banners that are not converting for 2 days or banners that are getting more click but lower conversions.
-searching for more banners the new batch I test yesterday didn't convert.

Question
Why a banner converted 15 a day suddenly converting less than 5?

 

[TrafficYoda]

I think ad creatives (images|banners) and landing pages have a short shelf life when used on the same audience -- familiarity breeds blindness (ignore) ...

yeah but within a day?

 

[TrafficYoda]

Within a day day -- no. Traffic patterns, problems with the offer. Who knows: there is damn little transparency. Sales will run in streaks on a small volume basis too.

Thursdays and Sundays are weak days too. I had a good day so it's not the day, maybe it is the luck?

even on weak days i do expect conversions with the clicks i have. But for me Monday and Sundays are the worst. So on Sundays people don't see porn? lol

But one things is for sure, ripping banners and using it without change shows low sales + dies quick,

gotta do some mix and match on banners competitors are running and my working banners
Right now I'm doing that basic 300x250 banner
gonna take my two good banners (only 2 are converting green consistently) and see if resizing them also helps.

 

[TrafficYoda]

UPDATE!
Total advertizement spend 200$
Earnings

On 6th Thursday was a bad day.

OVERALL ROI

But very promising.
Trying out 200*200 banner didn't work out because there is not enough traffic, I'm assuming that specific country has this banner size traffic.
Decided to move these 2 working banners to different countries.
Some worked some didn't.

What I am planning to do
Filtered out os/browser/carrier/time that did run for more than 1$ but below -100% ROI.
Stopped testing banners, gonna see if I can apply for a free trial on whatrunswhere and mix and match with my own variations. (all new test seems to just not convert)
Got some problem with cash flow praying I don't have to pause my campaigns.
Some of WH zones that i bid higher is not converting enough. Adjust the bid

QUESTION
What i do to make the result better?

 

[Graybeard]

I think ad creatives (images|banners) and landing pages have a short shelf life when used on the same audience -- familiarity breeds blindness (ignore) ...

 

[TrafficYoda]

@azgold do you know any people who are doing banners/adult niche that you can summon?

 

[erikgyepes]

Are you doing retargeting? I would add it to your arsenal and retarget your lost visitors

 

[Graybeard]

Within a day day -- no. Traffic patterns, problems with the offer. Who knows: there is damn little transparency. Sales will run in streaks on a small volume basis too.

Thursdays and Sundays are weak days too. I had a good day so it's not the day, maybe it is the luck?

 

[TrafficYoda]

Are you doing retargeting? I would add it to your arsenal and retarget your lost visitors

no i am not, retargetting i heard a lot about it, but i know nothing about it to just jump into it.
Care you share some of your knowledge?

 

[erikgyepes]

no i am not, retargetting i heard a lot about it, but i know nothing about it to just jump into it.
Care you share some of your knowledge?

What is exactly your traffic source?

If you run with Exoclick for example you can create a retargeting pixel in their interface.

Then you place this code into your landing pages.

After you can start creating retargeting campaigns and target only visitors who seen your lander.

These people are already warmed up and more likely to convert.

Also you will pay much less for this traffic and get much higher ROIs.

 

[TrafficYoda]

What is exactly your traffic source?

If you run with Exoclick for example you can create a retargeting pixel in their interface.

Then you place this code into your landing pages.

After you can start creating retargeting campaigns and target only visitors who seen your lander.

These people are already warmed up and more likely to convert.

Also you will pay much less for this traffic and get much higher ROIs.

i am using 2 difference traffic source exoclick is one of them.
"retargeting pixel" is this inside exoclick interface or some sort of a tool?
I'm redirecting some of the campaigns with my domain, can you place the code in domain that's redirecting to offer?

 

[erikgyepes]

Login to admin panel. Go to Campaigns -> Conversion Tracking. That's it there you generate your pixel and place to code on your lander.

It's a bit tricker if you use redirect, but you could create a page with a delayed redirect, so the pixel can fire before the user get's redirected. It would slow down the redirect though, so I'm afraid it would affect your conversion rate.

Another option -> some networks allow you to enter your pixel right into their landing page (like Adcombo for example) there you could do it right from the network side..

 

[TrafficYoda]

Login to admin panel. Go to Campaigns -> Conversion Tracking. That's it there you generate your pixel and place to code on your lander.

It's a bit tricker if you use redirect, but you could create a page with a delayed redirect, so the pixel can fire before the user get's redirected. It would slow down the redirect though, so I'm afraid it would affect your conversion rate.

Another option -> some networks allow you to enter your pixel right into their landing page (like Adcombo for example) there you could do it right from the network side..

Okay i'll ask the network i'm using if they allow me to enter pixel
But one question though.
How do i create re-targetting campaigns? i'm sure just adding pixel wouldn't do anything.