Stable Income form Adult Traffic

[adrocks]

Here we go,

my name is adrocks and I am here to make a stable income from adult traffic. I'm 22 years old and study economics in Germany.

I have some experience in the basic skills, required for affiliate marketing, such as setting up websites & hosting, photoshop, html and php. I'm really not an expert in any of these topics. I can barely code my own website with dreamweaver, but this is really all you need here.

What happend so far:

I started with Facebook Ads in February and spent around 30$ to get familiar with the platform and the whole process. Later on, i started promoting dating offers via direct linking and landing pages. I made roughly 20$ before my ads were suspended and kept getting rejected. Somehow I was able to run dating stuff, whereas it was not even allowed.

I turned my back on facebook and went over to traffic junky.

I created 8 banners, 2 landingpages and set up prosper202 for tracking. These are the results:

26/2/2014: +-0
01/3/2014: spent 45, made 30
02/3/2014: spent 45, made 28

Looking to the statistics, I decided to start with dayparting and weeded the non performing banners out. Theoretically I should be able to cut the expenses by 80% and maintain the income..... theoretically

Next testing day was monday and the signup ratio dropped into nowhere, nice loss of 30$.

Right now I'm testing different offers, but the conversion rate seems to be very low all over the different offers.

Any ideas what to do?

Cheers guys!

 

[K]

Looking forward to this, keep us updated.

 

[auroretan]

Hi Adrocks, I think we need more detail to better help you.

Like how long have u tested the offer? How many clicks? CTR and CR? And did you split test 'properly' changing 1 variable at 1 time?

"spent 45, made 30" > do you mean profit at $30, or that's revenue?

Base on your info, I assume you tested the offer for about week. If you have not optimized yet and this is the result (whether profit or revenue), I think its a good start, you need to tweak and optimize your LPs and Ads further. Stick to the offer that works for you, don't change offer yet until you optimize.

 

[cashmoneyaffiliate]

hello adrocks i gave besuper a few tips so thought i would just quote them here as you might find it useful as well.

- Ask your affiliate manager for the 3 top dating offers in your chosen country if they don't have more than 1 sign up to other affiliate networks

- Test banners in batches of 10 or more (you're going to have to test A LOT of banners) and cut poor performing ones aggressively..

- Split the traffic your getting between 3 completely different landing pages and once you have enough data remove the 2 worst performing ones and replace them with new landing pages. Wash, rinse, repeat till you find the right banner, landing page and offer combination

- Look for the best headline and image combination for your landing page

- Keep an eye out for the best times to run your campaign

- If your advertising in a top tier country ie UK, USA you will need a HUGE budget to compete with the other affiliates am talking at least $200 to $400 a day and thats just to get enough data because a lot of those guys will be on exclusive payouts.

- You should be aiming for a landing page CTR of at least 30% to 50% if your gonna have any chance of making money as most good adult dating offers tend to convert at around the 3% to 6% mark

- Find out what banners, landing page and offers your competition is running

- Read the blogs of top adult dating affiliates like jayknowscash and adultmediabuying.com

- Experiment with different ad placements as you get different CTRs and conversion rates from each one

- If you hit GOLD scale up as fast as possible as the competition will be on your heels especially in adult

Grind hard and good luck

also i have to agree with auroretan if you could give us a bit more info we would be able to offer you better advice

 

[adrocks]

Hey Guys,

thanks for the replies! I really appreciate that.

Sorry for the lack of detail, I'm not used to posting in froums. But I really want to to some consistent work here, so let's do it.

Offer 1
I tested the first offer for about 4 Days, 1400 clicks. Therefore I generated 16 leads, each paying 6,50$. I lost around 40$ here.

5 ads, 2 landing pages and this offer. I made the biggest loss after the weekend, I cut the ads, that did not generate leads and let it run on monday. Beeing ready for the money to roll in, I spent around 40$ for traffic on this day and generated stunning 2 leads. Campaign closed

Offer 2
This one was running for 2 days, 500 clicks and 2 leads. Pretty bad. I used the same ads [which may have been a mistake?] and the same landing pages, as there was no big difference in their performance. Campaign closed

Did another small test with a differen offer, but it felt like messing around to much.

Offer 1 is among the highest epcs in the adult niche and it seems as if many big advertisers use it. I tried to improve the compability between ad --> lp ----> offer. The ads are all new and the lp's got a makeover. Stuff went live a second ago, let's see how this goes.

cashmoneyaffiliate I stumbled across this huge post few days ago, I try to implement all of it Like your recommendations for jayknowscash and adultmediabuying these guys are insane. Love it.

Cheers!

 

[adrocks]

Good evening,

so far it's going horrible. 300 clicks and 0 conversions. Well, it's all hard earned money, but you have to go through this. Will keep you posted

Edit Got two leads. 259 clicks and 2 Leads. Expenses 30$ Revenue 12$ ROI: -40%

 

[chinnng]

Don't jump from traffic source to traffic source until you master it. Keep pushing. And yes make sure your banner > LP > offers are consistent. It doesn't also hurt seeing how your competition is doing it, maybe it would give you a few ideas.

 

[adrocks]

Thanks chinnng, I make sure to stick to traffic junky. You are absolutely right, we need to focus on one thing at a time to make things work.

Yesterday was quite a good day: 300 clicks, 6 Leads. Spent around 40$ and made it back. ROI: 0%

Most of the banners perform quite bad, my highest CTR is 0.25%, which makes my clicks expensive.

I will upload 7 different banners with 3 different approaches tonight and see what I can get.

Cheers

 

[cashmoneyaffiliate]

Thanks chinnng, I make sure to stick to traffic junky. You are absolutely right, we need to focus on one thing at a time to make things work.

Yesterday was quite a good day: 300 clicks, 6 Leads. Spent around 40$ and made it back. ROI: 0%

Most of the banners perform quite bad, my highest CTR is 0.25%, which makes my clicks expensive.

I will upload 7 different banners with 3 different approaches tonight and see what I can get.

Cheers

This is really good progress, I would say your landing page and offer seem to be fine, you just need to find a banner that gives you at least double the CTR but still provides the same % of conversions on the back end.

Your are very close tho so keep it up.

 

[adrocks]

Thanks for the kind words!

Another day of testing yesterday: 160 clicks and 1 Lead

I used new banners and some of the turned out to be bad and some are work better than the ones I had before. But somehow I get the feeling that these adult offers don't work so well during the week and peak at the weekend.

Will keep you updated...

 

[EymardSiojo]

Track and split.
Read charles ngo's post about split testing to get more work done

 

[adrocks]

Some updates here:

568 Clicks, 6 Conversions. -20$

 

[cashmoneyaffiliate]

adrocks how much are spending a day at the moment on advertising?

The reason i ask is that personally from my experience you really have to be willing to spend about a $100 a day once you know you "might" have a winner in order to get data as quickly as possible.

 

[adrocks]

I spend around 30$ a day, you mean it's not enough because of the fluctuation in conversions?

 

[mikemac]

good job my friend ... i hope you success soon

 

[mikemac]

Good job keep us update to see the progress

 

[cashmoneyaffiliate]

I spend around 30$ a day, you mean it's not enough because of the fluctuation in conversions?

Yes that's right you have to be spending enough in order to find your CVR average, from my experience i would say try and get your clicks up to about a 1000 to 2000 a day as this will give you more solid data to work with and you should see less fluctuations.

 

[adrocks]

Well I'll be out of money with this kind of budget very soon. So far I had a good start with cpa, I made some conversions and learned a lot. I did not burn all of my cash, which is very nice.

I know what you will say but I'm going to switch over to mobile. Clicks are cheaper, the varieties of offers is bigger, the competition won't copy your banner within 2 seconds and the entry barrier is higher than in desktop marketing. Not many affiliates blog about it, but there is enough material to get started.

I feel a bit bad about switching the traffic source, feels like the "Oh hey I will just check this hot thing and make a ton of money", but I honestly believe that this is not my motivation for this step.

I will go back to traffic junky for sure, but I a bigger budget for this one.

Let's see what I've done so far:

Got accounts at mundo media and matomy, set up a account with millenial media and loaded some cash in, set up tracking and checked some offers.

This is more of a shotgun approach to get thing to work: Launch 2-3 campaigns a day and see how it goes.

Cheers

 

[Effect]

Whats money stats so far then?

 

[adrocks]

Some updates on this journey,

it's been quite a busy time for me. I had to write examens, naturally things slowed down a bit. But I'm back at full throttle and I have some nice news for you.

I made my firtst profitable days in mobile marketing, peaking at 70$. Oh boy this feeling is addictive! But I'm far away from stable. After my best day, I saw the traffic slowing down and in the end I was kicked from the offer by request from the advertiser.

I'll keep testing!