Admitad cheated me out of $20,000. Any ideas how to punish them?

[cargod322]

Hi everyone!


Here’s the situation: I ran traffic to admitad for a long time (before the block I received payouts totaling more than $20,000).


Then the offer was abruptly stopped and they asked for proof of the traffic (I provided everything they requested). After that they were silent for about a year.


A year later I found out that my traffic was declared fraudulent and they will not pay. (As a result, the debt amounted to approximately $21,000.)


My request to at least cover the traffic costs was ignored. I asked for evidence — they simply started ignoring me.


Has anyone encountered a similar situation? Any ideas how to punish them?

 

[T J Tutor]

We are sad to hear you have this issue. However, we have rules here about making such claims. Typically a member is required to post such claims in our Disputes Forum. That requires a minimum of twenty posts to access so we can filter out those that only come here to complain about a company. When a member joins us and the only thing they post is a complaint, it is generally the only thing they have interest in posting and generally has no true interest in the community itself. That's just using us.

Asking how to punish a person or business is another reason we see your post as an issue. No one is going to contribute to punishing any person or business. Especially for someone they don't know.

At the moment, you posted a claim, but you did not back it up with any proof. Asking for punishment advice demonstrates you are not interested in resolution, another red flag.

I suggest you hire an attorney in their country of origin.

 

[Graybeard]

A year later I found out that my traffic was declared fraudulent and they will not pay. (As a result, the debt amounted to approximately $21,000.)

What do you mean by “debt”? Are they pursuing a legal claim, or is that just an internal balance on your account?

If you didn’t route traffic through your own server (redirecting to their ad URL), you’ve got no verifiable record of the traffic’s count, source, or attributes—so basically, you’re screwed. There’s nothing to bring to court. But if you do have full server logs, there might still be a way to fight it.

 

[cargod322]

We are sad to hear you have this issue. However, we have rules here about making such claims. Typically a member is required to post such claims in our Disputes Forum. That requires a minimum of twenty posts to access so we can filter out those that only come here to complain about a company. When a member joins us and the only thing they post is a complaint, it is generally the only thing they have interest in posting and generally has no true interest in the community itself. That's just using us.

Asking how to punish a person or business is another reason we see your post as an issue. No one is going to contribute to punishing any person or business. Especially for someone they don't know.

At the moment, you posted a claim, but you did not back it up with any proof. Asking for punishment advice demonstrates you are not interested in resolution, another red flag.

I suggest you hire an attorney in their country of origin.

Hello, thank you for your reply.


Yes, I initially wanted to post there but didn’t know about the 20-post rule.


Regarding the lawyer — there’s a nuance. The problem is that the cost of hiring a lawyer may eventually exceed the amount of the claim.

At the same time, I read a post from another member of this forum, and they wrote that Admitad doesn’t respond to complaints made here. That’s why I decided to create a topic asking for advice instead.

 

[cargod322]

It’s the internal balance of my account.


The question is — how exactly can I dispute it, and with whom?)

What do you mean by “debt”? Are they pursuing a legal claim, or is that just an internal balance on your account?

If you didn’t route traffic through your own server (redirecting to their ad URL), you’ve got no verifiable record of the traffic’s count, source, or attributes—so basically, you’re screwed. There’s nothing to bring to court. But if you do have full server logs, there might still be a way to fight it.

 

[T J Tutor]

Regarding the lawyer — there’s a nuance. The problem is that the cost of hiring a lawyer may eventually exceed the amount of the claim.

You don't know that until you speak to an attorney in the country the claim would be filed in. You're making an assumption here. That is not a good business decision. Assumptions are not a good business practice. Speak to a lawyer in that country before self defeating yourself. It could be that simply a threat from a lawyer may be enough to get paid. You cannot know, until you do. Get a quote for legal advice!

 

[cargod322]

You don't know that until you speak to an attorney in the country the claim would be filed in. You're making an assumption here. That is not a good business decision. Assumptions are not a good business practice. Speak to a lawyer in that country before self defeating yourself. It could be that simply a threat from a lawyer may be enough to get paid. You cannot know, until you do. Get a quote for legal advice!

Yes — that's what I'll do. I'm just rating the probability as extremely low, so I'm planning the next course of action in advance.

 

[Graybeard]

The question is — how exactly can I dispute it, and with whom?

No server records on your end to dispute the traffic quality—you have no proof—I think you are dead in the water—arguing without evidence is going nowhere. Learn from this and do it right next time.

 

[adfraudx]

Hi everyone!


Here’s the situation: I ran traffic to admitad for a long time (before the block I received payouts totaling more than $20,000).


Then the offer was abruptly stopped and they asked for proof of the traffic (I provided everything they requested). After that they were silent for about a year.


A year later I found out that my traffic was declared fraudulent and they will not pay. (As a result, the debt amounted to approximately $21,000.)


My request to at least cover the traffic costs was ignored. I asked for evidence — they simply started ignoring me.


Has anyone encountered a similar situation? Any ideas how to punish them?

That's why we always recommend using a fraud detection solution as an intermediary. It not only provides users with a trust certificate for the traffic user send, but also proves valuable in situations like this.

P.S.: This isn’t our brand promotion, just stating a fact.

 

[GrowthGuru]

Tough situation...but without solid logs on your side, there’s honestly not much you can do. Either get a lawyer in their country for a formal demand or chalk it up as a lesson and tighten your tracking stack going forward.

 

[StarBurst Affiliates]

Such a long wait till you make a decision to make a post on them. And you didn't post any picture or post that helps claim your post.

Now the main thing is, are you only working with Admitad only? is there any any other network you're working with? were you able to claim payments from there? what verticals did you promote with admitad? what was the traffic method?

Usually the partners promoting offers on any 3rd party traffic system i.e ad network leads to such situation. Cause there are a lot of ad network claiming genuine traffic but they send only bot traffic. Now this usually leads to such situation where the activity is rejected. Now depending upon the offer you promoted with admitad, if it was their inhouse, they should have send you report. But if it was 3rd party as well. Than usually such cases either take time or the networks silent cause they don't get any updates. Although such behavior is not acceptable, still it's the industry trend and i am also sick of it. Like if there's no report, atleast there could be mention to it, being silent always make persons sus