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Discussion in 'Follow Alongs and Online Journeys' started by mmosharov, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. mmosharov

    mmosharov Affiliate affiliate

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    @Graybeard what do you mean by "INDIVIDUAL" traffic?

    Yeah, it's zones, in another words it's different sites, on which people subscribe on push. So, each zone may have different audience, and it reacts to offers differently.
    The most strange thing here is why my camp did not recieve traffic from such a good zone with higher bid, but recieved with lower

    But i think it's just some internal PropellerAds mechanics. Like, with higher bid Propeller puts me in auctions for more "expensive" zones, leaving cheaper zones for other advertisers with lower bid. Something like that, but I cann't describe more detailed.

    Definitely =)
     
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  3. Aveathlei

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    Continue your journey and do not stop there after few failures. Maybe try some other networks as well like RichPush or so ? They advertised themself pretty well. You really need a lot of traffic though to make some revenue with that small payouts and that probably will mean bigger bids for top traffic.
     
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  4. mmosharov

    mmosharov Affiliate affiliate

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    @Aveathlei Thank you for cheering me up =)
    But I don't think I got some failures yet. Just some tests. So no, I am not going to stop =)

    Regarding traffic: I just have daily budget limit set up, so I can get more traffic if I would need to. Anyway, thanks =)
     
  5. mmosharov

    mmosharov Affiliate affiliate

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    Yesterday I asked Propeller support about "that" zone and why I have no traffic from it on my campaign with higher bid, but have traffic on campaign with lower bid.

    Turns out everything is simple but deep =)

    Support tells me that zones linked to campaign by moderator manually. Moderator selects the most suitable zones to your campaign in moment that campaign starts.

    BUT, there is 2 moments to note:
    - Traffic can change over time, so "the most suitable" zones can become not "the most suitable"
    - I don't know how do they select "the most suitable", but I think there is no unambiguous criterion, and selected zones could perform not "the best".

    So, what does that mean?

    It means, that if you just duplicate campaign with same settings/targetings, your new campaign can perform different than original. It can convert better (or worse), because of different linked zones.

    I thinks it's very crucial to understand.

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    Also I tested 2 additional landers, but they was bad =) So I returned to my original lander.

    Then I tried to narrow my targeting and make new camp with a whitelist with only green zones. And @Aveathlei was right - the volume dropped to almost 0, so I need more. And it's sad =) I would not be able to not make valuable revenue with that zones.
    Other zones perform on about -50% ROI, and I don't know how to optimize them so high.

    So I will try some other offers, but if anyone could give ne advice about this one, I will be very greatful!
     
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  6. Graybeard

    Graybeard Well-Known Member affiliate

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    Doesn't sound good
    That's a mouthful ;)
     
  7. mmosharov

    mmosharov Affiliate affiliate

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    You mean my bad English? =)
     
  8. mmosharov

    mmosharov Affiliate affiliate

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    Hey guys! 0/

    I just wanted to post that I did not give up.

    My cash run out a bit, so I don't run much traffic and thus have not much to post
    I am working on filling up my bank again now, so when I will do this I will definitely continue my journey

    Stay tuned please =)
     
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  9. Anthony.

    Anthony. Moderator moderator Business & Content Director affiliate

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    Have you tried any free traffic methods? Why don't you make a free traffic journey - free is always good, no matter how much money anyone has, receiving 100% profit is awesome :D

    I'll definitely stay tuned, glad to see you are not giving up!
     
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  10. mmosharov

    mmosharov Affiliate affiliate

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    Thank you!
    Yeah, I thought about free. But:
    First, as far as I know, "free" now is not completely "free". You use some consumables which cost some money. When scaling, it can also make quite big expenses
    Second, you need to invest much more time in "free". Choosing from time and money, I would rather invest money =) And will spend time on job (which is required yet) and family. Free also is not easy

    Free is nice when you have some backgound, fundament or at least good understading, how "free" works
    For me, it's easire to continue learning paid traffic, because I already have some understanding about it and expierence in it.

    imho =)
     
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  11. Anthony.

    Anthony. Moderator moderator Business & Content Director affiliate

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    Yeah good points there, for me and some of my methods free is great and definitely is "free" so it's nice to have bonuses on the side :)
     
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  12. Graybeard

    Graybeard Well-Known Member affiliate

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    No, I suppose you can use a translator on that one ...
    What I meant is that trying to optimize by cloaked 'zoneID' is probably a waste of your time --
     
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  13. chris4life

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    Keep testing and optimize your datam
     
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  14. Evadav

    Evadav Affiliate Manager Affiliate Manager Traffic Manager affiliate

    Hey guys,

    Have you tried EvaDav?
    The traffic is clear and high-quality, we work with all GEOs. You can test your ad campaigns for as little as $100.
    Try now and increase your ROI!
     
  15. Mor

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    I think in regard to this, they select for you the type of traffic that suits your offer. I am not 100% familiar with how propeller works, to be honest, but it seems like they have segments.

    Maybe you could enquire next time around you got some cash how this works, find out what does that mean. I'm just guessing here, but if you're buying the traffic you HAVE to have the full knowledge of what you're buying.

    And also see what your buying, is it direct traffic, meaning the traffic source can segment user subscription age, sites and so on, or rather your buying cheaper traffic from 3rd party network that propeller is buying from.

    Anyhow, good luck, don't give up! :)
     
  16. Graybeard

    Graybeard Well-Known Member affiliate

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    Mystery meat is for dinner tonight!
     
  17. Mor

    Mor Traffic Manager Traffic Manager affiliate

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    Always hated mystery meat dinners, i loved the food, hated the mystery :)
     
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