The best time to stop free submissions
- Thread starter gkd_uk
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Sadly it is when you get some decent PR.
gkd_uk
Well-Known Member
It would best to remove the free submission and add leave a paid submission and a free reciprocal link.
This way, those who don't want to pay will atleast choose the free reciprocal link which will increase a sites PR further.
Temi, i thought pr was related to backlinks. Allowing others to add urls for free into a web directory will increase their PR but not the web directory's PR, unless the person submitting creates a link back to the directory from their site.
This way, those who don't want to pay will atleast choose the free reciprocal link which will increase a sites PR further.
Temi, i thought pr was related to backlinks. Allowing others to add urls for free into a web directory will increase their PR but not the web directory's PR, unless the person submitting creates a link back to the directory from their site.
well I am looking at this from the other side, I am trawling the net to add my new website to directories to try and improve it's pr.
Because I am limited to time and a very tight budget any site that asks for payment without a high pr of 4 or above I ignore and move to the next one at the moment.
Here is a good example of making it a pay site too early?
Qango : Entertainment: Music
The PR of the previous page is 4 but look hopw few people have actually added their sites.
Because I am limited to time and a very tight budget any site that asks for payment without a high pr of 4 or above I ignore and move to the next one at the moment.
Here is a good example of making it a pay site too early?
Qango : Entertainment: Music
The PR of the previous page is 4 but look hopw few people have actually added their sites.
yes.. IMO there are two ways to look at this as an advertiser.
1. The page may not have a high pr but there are lots of other businesses, namely my competition - I will add.
2. The page has few other business entries but has a pr of 2 or above - I will add.
Here is one thing I may suggest? just an idea but based on what I have just said, is it illegal for a web directory to add a dangled carrot business on their page without asking that company's permission.
Say for instance I look at your web directory, I am a finance company in West Mids, the first company I see listed is HSBC bank for west midlands, I will think 'yes, this site must be important as HSBC are advertising on their first page, this one must be worth advertising with for myself even if it's free submission' now obviously HSBC won't list but can you list them without their permission to create a higher profile?
1. The page may not have a high pr but there are lots of other businesses, namely my competition - I will add.
2. The page has few other business entries but has a pr of 2 or above - I will add.
Here is one thing I may suggest? just an idea but based on what I have just said, is it illegal for a web directory to add a dangled carrot business on their page without asking that company's permission.
Say for instance I look at your web directory, I am a finance company in West Mids, the first company I see listed is HSBC bank for west midlands, I will think 'yes, this site must be important as HSBC are advertising on their first page, this one must be worth advertising with for myself even if it's free submission' now obviously HSBC won't list but can you list them without their permission to create a higher profile?
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midlandi
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This is an interesting topic, and one ive been trying to decide on for a while now.
My directory is PR4 predicted PR5 with over 2,200 listings, so i wondered is this the time to stop free submissions?
Of course the number of submissions would reduce, but i guess so would some of the traffic which woulkd then hurt at the next pr update.
Tough call...?
My directory is PR4 predicted PR5 with over 2,200 listings, so i wondered is this the time to stop free submissions?
Of course the number of submissions would reduce, but i guess so would some of the traffic which woulkd then hurt at the next pr update.
Tough call...?
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midlandi
Guest
It has a bearing on it yes.
Free submission is a double edge sword, one the one hand, it fill a directory up with crap, on the other hand it help populate a directory.
You need to think about both and come to a decision.
I think if you are trying to position a directory as a premium directory then no free submission should be allowed, if its aimed at the lower end of the market, free submission is very helful.
I have a few directories that allows free inclusion and will always allow free inclusion, some of them are PR5 some PR4
I have a PR0 directory that does not allow free inclusion as its aimed at more upmarket client
You need to think about both and come to a decision.
I think if you are trying to position a directory as a premium directory then no free submission should be allowed, if its aimed at the lower end of the market, free submission is very helful.
I have a few directories that allows free inclusion and will always allow free inclusion, some of them are PR5 some PR4
I have a PR0 directory that does not allow free inclusion as its aimed at more upmarket client
I came across this on an australian dir.
is this true?
yes it is true, some directories do not link to you directly for example Yell.com the UK's local search engine - search for UK businesses .
The only one I've found so far that does this is Yell, maybe this is something they feel comfortable with because they are more interested in getting a free listing so that they can pursue later at their own time to get a paid listing, pr probably isn't a worry for Yell either as they maybe just employ people to get their pr for them?
Here was an interesting dir site I found, I liked it because they also have a list of other directories on the right, it is also transparent immediately and gains your trust, so many directories seem to offer the world but when you get to the end you have to either give a link back or pay.. If you are going to pay that's cool but it's good to see this quickly IMO. Add Your URL - Web Directory Submission - Best Free Directories Listing - Submit Sites To Search Engine - Post Your Web Site - Submitting URLs Inclusion - Top Webdirectory Post
Here was an interesting dir site I found, I liked it because they also have a list of other directories on the right, it is also transparent immediately and gains your trust, so many directories seem to offer the world but when you get to the end you have to either give a link back or pay.. If you are going to pay that's cool but it's good to see this quickly IMO. Add Your URL - Web Directory Submission - Best Free Directories Listing - Submit Sites To Search Engine - Post Your Web Site - Submitting URLs Inclusion - Top Webdirectory Post
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