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Hats off to Larry (Larwee)

Discussion in 'General Affiliate Marketing Forum' started by ayushpant, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. ayushpant

    ayushpant Affiliate affiliate

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    Hi,

    I am writing this post because I am so moved by the hard work these guys do at 5 star forum. I would like to specially mention about Larry or Larwee as most of us know him by.

    Recently, I got into a bit of argument with Larry over website review. Basically, it started with me posting my website for review in the site review section, where I encouraged the visitors to take a poll on my website to review the design.

    Larry messaged me saying that everything is ok, except that I can't ask people to poll and explained although my intentions were completely honest, but they can't allow that to happen because if they allow people to do it, then it opens the door to potential spammers who would pretend people to review the website, but actually want people to visit their website and do something.

    Point very well taken, but I messaged Larry back to take off my website from the review section, as I thought that a little poll cannot do any harm and I was genuinely upset by this.

    Few hours later, I receive another e-mail from Larry explaining in detail why 5 star cannot allow to do that. The reason is basically the same as mentioned before, but this time Larry made me aware that there is a lot of spam that these guys have to deal with. There are people out there who want to trick innocent forum members to visit their blog/site and get something out of them. Larry stays up almost all night monitoring this forum so that when someone visits this forum in the morning, they read genuine stuff, not someone's spam messages.

    As, far as I am concerned I cannot agree with Larry more and would like to apologize publicly for getting upset over something that I really shouldn't have. I completely agree with Larry that rules are same for all the members, and my little poll could have probably opened the door for potential spammers who in protest could have said that if one guy can do it, then they also have the right to do it and then asking other 5 star members to visit their website and take some action (participate in a survey, subscribe to newsletter, etc etc).

    My salute to Larry for doing a marvelous job for keeping this forum spam free, and making sure that every forum member gets the best out of their 5 star experience.

    I did not officially participate in the I Heart 5 star forum contest, but I feel that there is no need to as in my heart I know that over this short period of time how much respect I have developed for 5 star and its administrators Larry & Linda.

    Larry, once again sorry for causing you trouble last night, and congratulations on doing a splendid job in this forum. :)
     
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  3. Larwee

    Larwee <b><font size=2>In Memoriam - Loyal Administrator< affiliate

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    Thanks ayushpant.

    ayushpant is a good member and I knew he didn't mean any harm in what he was doing. There are times when some of our members make mistakes, and we understand that. But there are people who don't care what they do. Those are the people we are concerned about.

    Yes, we do deal with our share of spam. But the good thing is that most members don't think that 5 Star has a spam problem. That is because every possible effort is made to keep it under control so that most members see very little or any spam.

    People want to have others visit their sites and/or blogs, buy their products or use their services.

    Many people will get the word out doing things the way they should. There are others who will try to do it with obvious spam. Some will spam but try to keep it from looking like spam.

    A very big problem is with the sneaky people who will try all types of tricks in order to get their words out to people. I don't want to even mention some of the tricks because I don't want to give anyone any ideas. I know most of you wouldn't try them and there are some people who already know some of them. But there are some people would might want to see if they could get away with them.

    Not only do we need to deal with real people who sometimes try to get away with whatever they can, we must also deal with software that is being used by some to try to do their dirty work.

    These problems are not unique to 5 Star. Most communities face the same problems and have their ways to deal with them. Some do a better job than others. I think we do a very good job of it here at 5 Star.

    There is a lot that goes on behind the scene that most of you aren't aware of in order to try to maintain the high quality of 5 Star Affiliate Marketing Forums.

    I read every word of every post that is made here and I've had private message conversations with many of the members. This helps me to better understand our members. Our members are a fine group of people.

    A big thanks goes to ayushpant and all of our 5 Star members who are good members and do everything they can to do the right thing.

    This isn't a perfect world, so some people aren't like that. Some of what we do in order to be able to effectively deal with them also ends up affecting our good members.

    5 Star has members and visitors around the world who are in different time zones. We want people to have a good experience in what they see posted no matter what time of day or night they happen to visit.

    As 5 Star grows so do the problems. We deal with the problems. Sometimes this involves changing rules or having new rules to deal with new problems.

    We don't want 5 Star Affiliate Marketing Forums to be so restrictive that you can't enjoy being a 5 Star member. We want this to continue being a friendly and helpful community and I know that is what our members also want.
     
  4. JustElliott8

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    Hats off to larry !!!!!!!!!!

    I just join the forum and not to savy on all this stuff with a few attempts and strong suport from larry and the others I think this is one of the best thing's you can do when you start working in affiliate marketing I have learned so much in such a short time Thanks again everyone!
     
  5. Linda Buquet

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    Thanks Ayush for letting us know what happened and for publicly
    giving Larry the recognition he deserves.

    I can honestly say without hesitation AND with absolute certainty
    that Larry is the most thorough and dedicated forum administrator out there.
    He works round the clock and is totally committed to doing things right.

    One of the reasons he's a little strict on certain things that I sometimes
    wish we could let our good members like you get away with is...
    With spammers and even nefarious characters that could do our members harm - if you open the door just a crack, they all try to swoop in and take advantage of the opportunity.

    Due to the anonymous nature of forums you just would not even
    BELIEVE some of the stuff people try to pull. You would be shocked.

    The main reason our forum is so well run is due to Larry's efforts.
    We get much less spam than other forums and you'll never see any flaming
    or bashing. This is due to the fact that it's a tightly run ship.

    Larry and I are very different in some respects and that's' why we make a great team. I'm totally laid back AND a sales person at heart. So if it was just me I'd let all our members self promote and run polls and do anything they wanted. That's actually a BAD thing! If I let the members go like that, this place would be so full of spam and ads you couldn't find a good tip to save your life!

    As things are now I think it's very obvious that the cream rises to the top. Pretty much everything you read here are serious discussions - the sole purpose of which are to help others. That's ALL due to Larry! The main reason is because he keeps certain doors not only shut but locked. Then there is not even a crack for the bad guys to think they could get away with anything.

    If your heart is in the right place he'll help you to no end and explain in detail what you need to do to get your post revived if it's deleted and has potential to be a public post that won't break our rules.

    Thanks Larry for all you do and thanks you guys for realizing what he does is for the good of the community as a whole.
     
  6. andreww

    andreww Affiliate Manager Affiliate Manager affiliate

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    Hey Ayush and Larry,
    Good to hear that the air is clear and that both of you are frank and honest enough to post about it here.

    I adopt the same approach too.

    I remember when I first started posting on other forums, their terms and conditions were clear, and I started getting neg repped for stuff that I wasn't even aware of.

    I appreciate the fact that Larry has PMed me on a number of times when I've had posts edited and he's mentioned why a change was made.

    I think it takes time to personally draft each PM and it's great to have an admin that's on the board close to 24-7.

    5Star truly is 5Star!

    :)
     
  7. JAmieF

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    Larry's work rate on this forum is awesome. He is first to welcome people and he is first to tell you if you have made an error. Both Larry and Linda make 5 star an enjoyable place to hang out.

    Nice post ayushpant! Good luck with the site too.
     
  8. Larwee

    Larwee <b><font size=2>In Memoriam - Loyal Administrator< affiliate

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  9. fitnfree

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    Just wanted to add my 2-cents ... you guys do a great job here at 5-star and yes, much appreciation for your hard work!
     
  10. YourMlmTools.biz

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    What really helps me, and this has GOT to be so time consuming, is both Larry and Linda have PMed me to take their valuable time to explain this to me instead of the frustrating parental that's just the rules thing I get often in other forums. Because of my tendency to overreact, this helps me a great deal in understanding the guidelines necessary due to spammers who think dropping of one ad and moving on is more effective than networking

    Great education job folks

    Rick
     
  11. Linda Buquet

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    Thanks Rick,

    Larry really does go the extra mile for our members.
    We're lucky to have him!
     
  12. ncmedia

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    Will also admit to having a few small speed bumps here so far, however the damage control and patience is untouchable compared to other forums so far. I think every board needs a Larry on board (no pun).

    Will agree that looking after a successful forum takes a very patient people person and so far I've had more positive attention from the admins here in 2-3 days than I've had in months or even years with other forums so kudos, and my hat goes off to you Mr.48hrs straight (how long Larry admits to being at it here sometimes, admirable).

    Thank you again and I look forward to continued success here.
    Norb.
     
  13. YourMlmTools.biz

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    I said it before and I'll say it again. No business relationship is perfect. I certainly don't agree with all the policies, but Larry does take his time to explain the company's side of things and that is appreciated

    Rick
     
  14. Linda Buquet

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    Thanks Norb and Rick. We are lucky to have Larry!
    He always goes above and beyond to try to help members
    understand the rules and the reasons for them.
    And he never sleeps! :p
     
  15. Larwee

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    Thank you Norb and Rick.

    A clarification on something Norb said. I am a person who never has required much sleep. So even when I do sleep it isn't very long compared to most other people. Yes I am often up 48 hours or more and on occasions it might be slightly more than 72 hours. While I often spend a lot of time here when a bunch of things need to be done and I'm available during those long hours, I also devote time to taking care of my own sites and blogs.

    It would be impossible for us to do everything here at 5 Star Affiliate Marketing Forums in a way that would please everyone. However every possible effort is made to be as fair to all of our members as possible and to treat all members with respect. I believe it is important to try to work with members to resolve problems.

    We are always working to make 5 Star Affiliate Marketing Forums better and we will continue to do so.

    Once again, thanks Norb and Rick for expressing your thoughts. I am glad we have been able to come to an understanding.
     
  16. ryan5billion

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    I gotta tell you... I just had my first post yesterday and within about 20 minutes I'd already had 3 new PMs from Larry clearing up my Intro and making sure I new all the forum rules and where I should be posting.

    I was like "HOLY MOLY" this guy is on top of his game.

    Mad Props Larry.

    Keep up the hard work. Nothing so sweet as a spam free forum.
     
  17. Linda Buquet

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    "Nothing so sweet as a spam free forum."

    Glad you see it that way too. Keeps our info pure and given
    only for the right reasons - to help others.

    Thanks for giving Larry props. He deserves them!
     
  18. Oregon Coast Guy

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    I agree. Larry is a great guy. Very personable and pleasant.
     
  19. YourMlmTools.biz

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    Since it was brought up I believe there's a very fine line between spam free and not allowing authors and marketers credit for their work and Yes still props to Larry for his communication skills and hard work

    Rick
     
  20. Larwee

    Larwee <b><font size=2>In Memoriam - Loyal Administrator< affiliate

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    Credit is allowed as stated in the rules and as I've explained in private messages to you. There are some restrictions because of abuse, but credit is given.

    In addition there are times when people will post an article trying to give the impression it is their article. Many times research has been done to determine the actual author and the actual author is then given credit rather than to allow the impression that someone is the author who actually isn't.

    Appropriate action is then taken with the person who made the post who wasn't the actual author.
     
  21. YourMlmTools.biz

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    Not a major disagreement here

    As I said in a pm back to you members don't have to agree with all the rules they just have to follow them until a member decides at some point restrictions outweigh advantages. Every member, owner and moderator makes that decision everyday.

    As I also mentioned the communication here between owner/moderators and members is far superior to any forum I belong to thus far

    Rick
     

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