SERPs as a keyword tool

[greenscape]

I have a question about using google SERPs to determine how many searches are conducted monthly for keyword “phrases”(rather than adwords)

I can take a phrase with perhaps 4 to 6 words and search and I might come back with 500k searches (give or take, for illustration purposes) with a given set of keywords, but if I use the same search in “quotes” for an exacting match, the same search might render anywhere between 2k to 150k searches(give or take)

I thought the lower the number the less the competition?

but then of course I realize you don’t want the search volume too low either…if I were really trying to target something for an article, my niche will not remain static, but would something in the range of 5k to (for the sake of example) 20k provide low competition but at the same times an adequate audience?

Your feedback is appreciated

 

[Linda Buquet]

Hi greenscape,

I think you may be having some confusion about how to do keyword research.

You can't really use "google SERPs to determine how many searches are conducted monthly."
The SERPS only tell you how many competing pages, not how popular the search term is.

I think this thread will help you a lot if you go through a couple of the examples
with some keywords you are interested in.

http://affiliate-marketing-forums.5...-how-do-niche-keyword-research.html#post43897

 

[greenscape]

thank you linda,

I guess you could say I was looking for a method perhaps not as "accurate" but maybe "acceptable" in terms of simplicity...

I find that it must be the way I understand and break things down
because for me (I went to the links you provided) it wasn't clear
and lead to me additional searches and info and now I'm more
confused than ever... we're not all the same when it comes to
processing information, and this seems top elude me

I have to look for another way............

ever know yourself very well and you know "What works for you, and what doesn't?" this is something that I don't seem to comprehend

which is why I didn't want to go down the traditional (I'll call it) path for any kind of ranking in serps, for article marketing purposes

but I thank you very much for taking the time, as I've always found you
very intelligent and extremely helpful, honestly what more could a
forum member ask for, and I thank you very much for that....

But this "keyword" or "phrase" searching, even with all the things
I've read, will not "seep" into my mind, which is why I was
looking for some type of "shortcut" ... it doesn't have to be exacting
but just something to "get me off the ground" hence attempting
to use serps for some type of research....

if something isn't working I'll try something else, or I just get
"stuck" and certainly there is no value in that

this happens to me sometimes, certain type of "thought processes" or
necessary "comprehension" leave me behind, maybe if I had the perfect
"Keyword video" everything would fall into place, but I've reviewed dozens!!

anyway thank you again linda

I'm willing to accept a method that works half as good,
and I understand that serps are simply "competing pages"
but something is better than nothing, and maybe I can learn from
those

 

[greenscape]

hi again,

I have a question about "allintittle" and the correct protocol
when I use it, will I enter

allintitle: "the title I'm searching"
or
allintitle: the title I'm searching

after I reviewed your links Linda, I went and tried to look for more
info about the "allintitle" search. It seemed some included "quotes"
in their examples, and others did not. So I wanted to ask to see
how they differed?

I surmised that without the quote, the words would be in the
title, but could be in any order

However if I used the "quotes" the title would be in exacting order
as searched..would that be correct?

thank you!

by the way, using this type of search on google this is the message I'm starting to receive;

We're sorry...

... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now

 

[djbaxter]

1. There shouldn't be a space after the semicolon in allintitle:

2. See More search help : Google search basics - Web Search Help and Advanced Google Search Operators

3. The error message you get is displayed if you submit similar repeated search queries in a short period of time, OR if you search for specific terms or phrases that are often submitted by autosearches, OR possibly if you use search operators that are often associated with SEO tools that use automated queries.. Often, if you just submit the same search query again it will work.

 

[greenscape]

thank you minstrel I very much
appreciate your explanation

greenery

 

[Seleyna]

speaking of keyword tools, do you guys actually use The Google Insights tool?
because I prefer it more than the Google Keyword Tool, im just not sure if a lot of experts here really use it

 

[fastfish720]

Best tool you can possibly buy is Market Samurai for keyword research, I also own Micro Niche Finder and the features are no where close to what MS has to offer.