Review How much for EV battery replacement?

[Graybeard]

If this article is right --not that much.
Compare the cost to replacing an ICE engine or transmission in your current 'hydrocarbon emitting' auto or truck ...
$4,000 USD or so they are saying for battery replacement 10 years from now.

How much does it cost to replace the batteries in electric vehicles?

What are the costs of replacing a battery for an EV? Not as much as you think, and they may not need replacing at all.

thedriven.io

 

[T J Tutor]

The battery issue has long been my question for these EV's. Expensive to replace and expensive to recycle. I long thought Hydrogen was a better answer.

 

[Graybeard]

Hydrogen is a distribution availability problem (right now).
Electricity is everywhere as a supply right now.

After 10 yrs and 150,000 miles (242,000 km) ICE vehicles may need major repairs.

More encouraging is the used BEV market may be more viable then previously though. That's an important point to early adopters ...

 

[T J Tutor]

Hydrogen is a distribution availability problem (right now).

Both require an infrastructure investment. Charging stations or hydrogen stations. Seems like a wash to me and hydrogen is more environmentally friendly.

 

[Graybeard]

Availability. The is no 'hydrogen grid' to leverage now that would meet the mass retail quantity needed.

IMO, Hydrogen fuel cell use is better suited to long haul vehicles or at businesses and government/municipal garages with their own fueling facilities. In most situations; commuting or local use BEV vehicles can be charged at home at night or when not in use. Apartment buildings might be an issue as would street parking.

Supplying hydrogen fuel at truck stops at first would be a first step solution. Retail outlets like today's gasoline station will be a very capital intensive project. What's needed is a new breakthrough technology that will allow in situ solar electrolysis of hydrogen and its storage on location. That may be a possible --at some time (probably far off).

 

[Graybeard]

Nikola

Nikola Stock Is a Fraud, But It's Still the Next Tesla

Nikola stock jumped 40% on Tuesday when GM announced its $2 billion investment. Could Nikola could be the next Tesla?

investorplace.com

Arizona-based zero-emission vehicle company Nikola and New York's Opal Fuels, which focuses on renewable fueling infrastructure for heavy-duty truck fleets, entered into a memorandum of understanding on the development, construction, and operation of hydrogen fueling stations in North America and the use of renewable natural gas (RNG) in hydrogen production. “Under this strategic engagement, Nikola and Opal Fuels intend to co-develop and co-market hydrogen refueling infrastructure to accelerate the adoption of heavy-duty zero-emission fuel-cell electric vehicles (FCEV),” the companies wrote on Thursday.

The Hydrogen Stream: Electrolysis tech that can produce hydrogen from virtually any water source including salt water

A Swiss-Canadian consortium is developing a novel process to produce green hydrogen. Furthermore, Italy's Snam is cooperating with IRENA and a French consortium wants to deploy high-end hydrogen storage systems for the railway sector.

www.pv-magazine.com

They are following the FCEV heavy duty, long haul, transport scenario ...

Contrary --all electric battery city busses

New 6 Meter Bollore Bluebus unveiled at this years RNTP Event - We Go Electric

During the RNTP Event 2021 the French Company Bollore presented its new version of its long anticipated BlueBus. The Company increase boarding capacity, greater autonomy, reduced charging time: Bluebus presented on Wednesday a new version of its six-meter electric bus. Intended for communities...

wegoelectric.net

I think this has been done with electric street cars 100 years ago --why even the need for a battery?

More commercial hydrogen fuel cell in France

Lhyfe produces green hydrogen using wind turbines

Lhyfe's Bouin site produces 300kgs a day, but will ramp up to a tonne a day in the coming months

energydigital.com

 

[T J Tutor]

You know. when I moved to Las Vegas in 1981, one of the first most noticeable environmental applications I saw was that all municipal, all transit, and all cabs were required to burn natural gas. That was 1981. Building infrastructure is not as big or as difficult as many think. Vegas made them all convert in a 40 years ago.

 

[Graybeard]

Natural gas is methane. When you burn methane you create CO2.
NG, LNG, or propane has had an established distribution network for years on a very large scale.
Hydrogen gas is corrosive to iron pipe (makes iron pipe brittle and it cracks easily) --more that 10%± of the existing gas distribution network will need an upgrade.
I think the LNG conversion strategy in the 1980's had more to do with NO2 pollution and oil independence.

Hydrogen fuel cell (FCEV) are going to be a hard sell for some time. The concept is fine.

Remember this: Invest in Atlis Electric Pickup Trucks?

Glad I didn't sink any money into 'Altis' or all-piss truck

https://www.startengine.com/atlis-motor-vehicles

years later and nothing but hot air


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