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Your Top Search Rankings at Yahoo & MSN Search are Worthless

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By Mike Banks Valentine (c) March 8, 2005
http://RealitySEO.com

It seems I now do this rant every single year when traffic
statistics are discussed in web industry news. Last week I
posted to my Reality SEO blog that referred traffic numbers are
the only statistic that webmasters should be concerned about
when looking at their search engine rank. I wrote about this
last year after ComScore Media Metrics statistics were released
discussing Search Engine Queries generated by each search
property.

http://searchengineoptimism.com/Google_refers_70_percent.html

In that article, I suggested to Microsoft as they developed
their own search technology that MSN search might consider
resisting the urge to keep searchers on their site by plastering
both PPC and "Sponsored Sites" above and below search results.
Google displays two "Sponsored Links" above organic results and
none below, along with Adwords ads along the right column.

Well now that MSN search has made its official debut, we can see
that they put three "Sponsored Sites" links both above AND below
their organic search results, along with those Overture (Soon to
be Yahoo Branded) PPC ads along the right side of the page. Not
bad visually, but it appears to be keeping visitors on the MSN
search site because they simply are NOT clicking through to
highly ranked sites according to closely watched traffic
statistics of several sites I monitor for clients.

I've been pouring over web stats for a half dozen clients
looking for traffic from MSN and it is missing in action. Even
though these sites rank well for targeted terms for my clients -
MSN is not delivering the traffic at all.

This has always been an issue for SEO's and their clients and we
are puzzling this one over, looking for results from those top
rankings at both Yahoo and MSN as they seem to retain the
searchers no matter how well we rank the sites!

Yahoo has dropped dramatically, with referred traffic that used
to amount to over 5% of the visitors to client sites, it has
dropped as low as 1.5% of total referred traffic from search
engines. After a recent increase in referred traffic from Yahoo
search, we were hopeful it would stay high, but it wasn't to be.
Rankings have not declined - Read That Again - Rankings have not
declined, just the referred traffic!

Google has gone up in referrals from foreign countries,
including foreign language sites. We used to see tiny amounts of
traffic trickle in from non-English language countries, but
Google country sites for Netherlands, Germany, Italy, France,
Spain, Mexico and a dozen other language specific Googles have
combined to send more non-English referred traffic than the
total coming from (English) Yahoo Search!

The search world is getting very odd when great rankings at
Yahoo and MSN don't equal referred traffic. This has always
been the case to a degree, but is getting extreme and very
disturbing. Google has always sent more traffic, with as much
as 85% of referred search traffic coming from English Speaking
Google variants in US, Canada, India, New Zealand, Australia,
and UK sending more traffic than both the US Yahoo and MSN.

What is the value of top rankings in MSN and Yahoo if those top
positions don't bring traffic?

Zippo, NONE are coming from MSN Search even though we are better
ranked in several important search phrases for client sites at
MSN than at Google! This is serious and it's a problem that we
must resolve. "Searches performed" statistics, like those
exhaustively researched by Bill Platt in a recent article
http://realityseo.com/2005/03/day-internet-search-engines-stopped.html
are absolutely meaningless if searchers don't click through to
top ranking sites! What does this mean?

Even though I write a similar article each year, discuss this
topic on large discussion lists and mention it regularly in my
Reality SEO blog, I have yet to get honest answers from search
engine representatives at Yahoo or MSN. I did get a couple of
Yahoo Search managers to admit that more visitors stay on the
Yahoo site and continue to either PPC ads or to other Yahoo
links because "There is more of value to the searcher at Yahoo."
What is of more value to a searcher than relevant search
results?

I gave those Yahoo's access to my traffic statistics and those
of clients so they could see that nearly 70% of my traffic and
that of clients was coming from Google - EVEN WHEN THOSE SAME
SITES RANKED HIGHLY IN SEARCHES AT YAHOO! No comment and no
explanations as to why, when they generate huge numbers of
search queries, that far fewer visitors click through from Yahoo
search results than do from Google search results.

One must assume that someone searching for something visits at
least a few of the sites that appear in the list of search
results, no? They sure do visit from Google in significant
numbers - consistently. But both Yahoo and MSN Search are
failing to send referred search traffic to sites ranked highly
in their search results. Why?

I highly recommend that all webmasters with access to statistics
for their own site look seriously at your traffic referred by
Yahoo & MSN for search phrases you rank well on. Do YOU have
traffic referred by Yahoo or MSN Search for your high ranking
search phrases. Why not?

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Mike Banks Valentine operates http://WebSite101.com and performs
ethical search engine optimization
http://www.seoptimism.com/SEO_Contact.htm and press release
optimization & distribution online. If you've got news you can
rank at the top for your search phrases.
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Sounds like sour grapes to me. If he truly had, "Ethics" he'd recommend his <cough>, "clients" take the PPC route, as that's where the REAL traffic comes from (Yahoo/MSN). And even after that, I LOVE top 10, "gravy" listings in Yahoo/MSN.

JMHO
 
Mike Banks Valentine is a respected writer in his field but I don't agree with him on this amy more than I agreed with him when he said a site should only link to 'similar sites'. That advice was taken as a 'rule' by seo's and trumpeted all over the internet. Trying to find reciprocal links after that got a lot more difficult.
 
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