Want to run a RON campaign with juicy ads.

[mattyboy]

Good stuff man! Are you still running with Juicy and 7 search? If you're seeing conversions coming in steady, you may want to think of testing out different traffic sources as well..

 

[POLLITO122]

Today, when i switched on my computer, i saw 22 clicks and no conversions, but then i had 1 additional conversion from the day before (7 in total). as the statistics of loaded cash were higher than the screen, i saw an 1 at the very left of my screen, then i scrolled, and i had one conversion of $35.

I received still more traffic that i have to weed, but this point of the weekend i spent like, $13 or $14 while optimizing, and i made a conversion of $35.

I had been using 7 search before running the juicyads RON, but i stoped because i did not have conversions, If i can manage to take at least one conversion a day, I will use the money to test other massive porn traffick networks, like traffick junky. The juicyads Ron Itself claims that can provide 300 Millions of impressions a day. but i have higher biddrs and furthermore i had to weed a lot of traffick, so at most i got 1.2 millions of impressions in a day, and was traffic that i had to weed.

I will have to take a long time scalling, but if meanwhile you are having profits, it does not hurt.

 

[K]

The main things is your learning to test and track traffic - if you can be profitable at the same time your already ahead of the game.....what offer pays $35?

 

[mattyboy]

The main things is your learning to test and track traffic - if you can be profitable at the same time your already ahead of the game.....

Like K said, if you can be testing and have the campaign profitable, you're in a good spot! I'm still trying to have one of my campaigns be profitable during early testing!

 

[POLLITO122]

The offer is xxxblackbook and pais $35, but it is pay per sale, so it's actually a low payout. But i preffer a low payout and a big conversion rate, than being scrubbed. I had 11 leads and just a sale at te moment.
Today i had to stop the campaign because it seems that Sundais have very low conversions. I will begin again tomorrow.
Stats:

03/22/2013
impressions:465000
Clicks: 125
clicks through my landing: 13
CPC: 0.0141
Cost: 1.75
Free signups: 2


03/23/2013
impressions: 1,268,259
Clicks: 492
clicks through my landing: 65
CPC: 0.0171
Cost: 8.410
Free signups: 7

03/24/2013 (Sunday)
impressions: 831,887
Clicks: 372
clicks through my landing: 47
CPC: 0,0137
Cost: 5.109
Free signups: 2

In 10 dais of testing i just spent $26. Then this sale of $35 saved me the day. I have to make 2 more sales this week and i will have rolling paiments.

 

[POLLITO122]

The offer is xxxblackbook and pais $35, but it is pay per sale, so it's actually a low payout. But i preffer a low payout and a big conversion rate, than being scrubbed. I had 11 leads and just a sale at the moment.
Today i had to stop the campaign because it seems that Sundais have very low conversions. I will begin again tomorrow.
Stats:

03/22/2013
impressions: 465,000
Clicks: 125
clicks through my landing: 13
CPC: $0.0141
Cost: $1.75
Free signups: 2


03/23/2013
impressions: 1,268,259
Clicks: 492
clicks through my landing: 65
CPC: $0.0171
Cost: $8.410
Free signups: 7

03/24/2013 (Sunday)
impressions: 831,887
Clicks: 372
clicks through my landing: 47
CPC: $0,0137
Cost: $5.109
Free signups: 2

In 10 dais of testing i just spent $26. Then this sale of $35 saved me the day. I have to make 2 more sales this week and i will have rolling paiments.

 

[mattyboy]

Looks good man.... Maybe you can try to split test with a pay-per-signup offer and compare. Are you rotating banners or running one at a time? With the signups you've been getting, the campaign would be running profitable daily, or is the issue a lot of your free signups were getting scrubbed out before?

 

[POLLITO122]

The problem was that they were scrubbing me all the leads. I submitted a lot of banners, but as i do not stop to receive new traffic sources, i can not take a conclusion about the CTR of each one.

 

[mattyboy]

The problem was that they were scrubbing me all the leads. I submitted a lot of banners, but as i do not stop to receive new traffic sources, i can not take a conclusion about the CTR of each one.

Gotcha. Maybe try to reach a decision on a creative when it has reached 5000 impressions? That's what I try to use as my benchmark. If after that many impressions, it's not performing well, I would personally cut it. Maybe have 2-3 in rotation and start eliminating, then introduce one or two new ones which are based and improved off the winner.

 

[POLLITO122]

I had traffic sources that sent me 50.000 impressions in a morning with a CTR of 0%. I tried to export toa CSV the traffic sources and there were like 6000 in two dais. The problem is that you can not arrange the list of sources by clicks... even if you export to CSV, all the figures are in the same column and is difficult to understand something. Furthermore the page is very slow to change something and sometimes it crashes.

I've been ading new banners, and then for each size disabled the ones that had lower ctr after at leasty 200.000 or 300.000 impressions. In some ad sizes i did not find nothing better but i found a 300x250 banner from somewhere that has 0,41% of CTR. while my average was 0,03%.

 

[mattyboy]

Can you maybe show one or two of your banners so the members here can make suggestions? Instead of using current ones, maybe show ones that you intend to use. That way you can get ideas before using?

 

[POLLITO122]

I removed the banner that gave me 0,4% Ctr and my conversions increased a lot, maybe the banner was giving traffic but not conversions. Now i Have and average of 0,1%CTR, this, added to the recent improvements of my landing makes that with just $4,8 of spent i made 8 leads today. This should be enough to make a $35 sale, but i didn't still get another one (23 leads so far). I'm #250 in ECP bidding the minimum ($0,015), to be the first i should have 1,5%of CTR, If it happens , I thing that i could make more than $50.000 a day if the advertiser is good enough to pay me whithout shaving...

This is the one that made 0,4% (or 0,5%)CTR:


Is a 300x250. And i found it in a website with very high CPM bids. Now I'm planning to take the banners that perform better and try to improve them for my campaign. The banner that gave me my AM , had 0,05% CTR, 10 times less:



Anibody has a tutorial on how to make animated banners with geolocalization?

 

[mattyboy]

What I'm seeing a lot is that for dating, the amateur-ish type banners seem to be what's working. I haven't juice myself but maybe you can go in and turn off or block sites which are giving you a really low CTR and focus on where you are getting traffic from? Have you placed a pixel so you can see where the conversion comes from in the campaign?

On another note Pollito, due to our sense of brotherhood here at CPAFix, I have to let you know something. First, I'm a newbie as well, so any advice I give is basically things I would try but, you are spending your money so be sure to ask for others advice as well. Also, we are starting up a dating campaign as well. It is a bit different than yours as we are just trying to use the dating offer to convert the people who don't convert on the main offer. I just wanted to let you know that since I have been giving you a little suggestions and stuff.

All in all, I'm still here to bounce ideas and stuff, and like watching your progress as it gives me more motivation!

Keep up the good work and don't give up!

 

[POLLITO122]

If you make a new adult dating campaign try to make it convert with Indian traffic, I thing that the trick is make a lander with a lot of pics of these that appear in Hindu porn websites, because if they see a landing claiming: get laid in Bangalore, and all girls are white, it will lack credivility. I have also discovered that it is ilegal to spread porn in india, but the intention is there.

Indian traffic is very cheap:

04/02/2013

Impressions: 2,153,995
CTR: 0.12
Clicks: 2,662
CPC: $0.0044
Cost: $11.719
Clicks throug my lander: 366
Free Leads: 1

The day before, I have been getting leads for $0,3 so i kept the campaign on all the night. This traffic also includes countries like germany... the CPC of indian traffic is $0,002, five clicks for a cent. But at the end i ended paying $11 for a single free signup. I already have 32 leads in loaded cash and i did not make another sale, so i will return to peerfly and try to promote something that has pay per lead and is not scrubbing.

I hope that at least one of all the leads i have made, will generate a sale someday.

 

[POLLITO122]

I will stop working with loadedcash, I made like 40 leads, and i did not make any other sale, and a lot of people sais that they are being scrubbed there. Furthermore, I ask them to put a postback URL and they give me excuses to not put it.

If it was Justhookup, I would have earned like $200 with these leads.

 

[K]

Let us know how many conv you get when you split test with JHU...

 

[mattyboy]

I'm working on targeting US/CA/AU right now. Once I can get the campaign working, will look at other countries. That's odd that your network won't allow you to place your pixel. I'd be a little leary about that. Why don't you try JHU's pay per lead offer. There are a few of them around. Once you have your conversions where you want them, run some tests on the same source/traffic to see if you can make more with paid subscriptions.

 

[K]

I'm working on targeting US/CA/AU right now. Once I can get the campaign working, will look at other countries. That's odd that your network won't allow you to place your pixel. I'd be a little leary about that. Why don't you try JHU's pay per lead offer. There are a few of them around. Once you have your conversions where you want them, run some tests on the same source/traffic to see if you can make more with paid subscriptions.

Having much luck yet mate? Maybe you could start a case study so we can also follow along?

 

[POLLITO122]

Yes, I was Going to run JHU with Peerfly, but then I said that there is a new adult dating offer in German that accepts traffic from Germany and Switzerlad, and as for my testing i have seen that with german traffic i obtain cheaper signups (because it's half cheaper and unsaturated), and the offer has a payout of $5 (I suppose they charge the memberships in €, so they have more $ to pay affiliates). then i decided to prepare this offer first. The problem is that i have to make new banners for this offer, because it's in German. But i guess that as they have a lot of rules, they scrub less.

 

[mattyboy]

Nice, that seems like it can work. Let me know if you need help with translating....

K, yeah, I may do one with this campaign.