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Discussion in 'Display Media Buying' started by POLLITO122, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. POLLITO122

    POLLITO122 Affiliate affiliate

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    The account manager of juicy ads, recomended me to run a RON campaign with CPC, but they require $250 min deposit, do they refund the spare budget if i end the campaign before spending all of it?
    And did somebody convert adult dating with it?
    I have a lander: Online Casual Date: iHookup
    But i do not still have banners.

    I have been running the lander with 7 search with different photos (that can change the CTR by x2 or x3), and i had click-throughs but no conversions. I suspect that the problem is that i'm not receiving traffic from porn websites... just from weird search engines.
     
  2. K

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    If you have a banner on 7Search with a good CTR then try it on Juicy....Get some banners made and split test everything...you will need to spend at least that $250 to make profits.
     
  3. POLLITO122

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    No, in 7 search i run text-ads. And the RON runs with CPC. I can made landers with good CTR's (sometimes like 60%) and sometimes, i harvest emails with them., but i do not know why i don't have conversions.
     
  4. Freddy63

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    I don't know if it's just me, images on your lander are very poor in quality? They are not clear. Try to use more quality and clear images. I don't think juicy will refund anything. I can't say for sure since I never ran a RON ads.

    And about iHookup, they joined Commission Junction recently. If you're planning to promote iHookup, it's best to go we CJ. The reason I'm saying this is that when you pick offer on CPA network it has some age limitations like "24-35 male $4 per singup" and there's another offer for 36-40. You'll have to pick one age group.

    The problem is you can't target age groups in Juicy ads. So some leads will get wasted. It was differant on CJ, all leads above age 25 will be counted. They pay $1.60-$3.60 for leads depending on age group. And if someone get a paid membership you'll get $55 per order. All with one offer and one link to promote.
     
  5. POLLITO122

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    Yes I lowered the quality of the photos with the photoshop, to make them faster to load, I have other pics with more quality, but now i'm testing this lander and the formula seems to work well, at least i get a lot of click throughs to my lander. Furthermore, my geolocalization script got broken and it also seems to have increased the ctr.
    I applied for the ihookup in CJ, but the problem is that they have a lot of conditions, they do not allow porn images (that is precisely what works best), and they ban you from using copyrighted material from third parties... But in the other hand, i thing that in CJ, adertisers are not allowed to scrub at all (the problem comes when validating the leads).

    I run the iHookup with peerfly, and the only restriction is 25+.
     
  6. K

    K Administrator Administrator affiliate

    Any stats of your new campaign?
     
  7. POLLITO122

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    I didn't still begin, I do not have conversions with the ihookup offer and i suspect that is the same problem that happened to many : iHookup Problem | PeerFly Publisher Forum So i will have to wait to have it fixed. I do not know why i alwais have the same problem, once i'd been scrubbed in Cpatank for a year and a half, and when i moved to AFF i began to have a lot of conversions (these of $0,05).

    In the new network OWN, they claim that these problems are under control, but i sent application 2 times without response.

    Now I'm running with peerfly. I 've also applied for ihookup in cj, but they are manual review and furthermore they have a lot of policies to shave you, but i guess that they are not allowed to scrub. They also make you wait 3 months to pay you.
     
  8. K

    K Administrator Administrator affiliate

    Why don't you run a similar offer? BeNaughty always does well?
     
  9. POLLITO122

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    I have applied for the benaughty in CJ, and a lesbian adult dating in peerfly, what i will have to do is make a landing for each offer. Furthermore my AM in peerfly said that the ihookup generated conversions the last 24 hours. I will track them with prosper 202, run $5 or so in the ron, then pause it and begin to optimize websites that do not generate clicks at all an are obviously wasted traffic. then, from the websites that generate clicks, i will optimice the ones that generate conversions. so i will not have to wait to spend $250.

    From a side, the normal adult dating offers, should work for the same websites, so they should be optimized just once, and the lesbian dating offer, should be optimized in a different campaign. So i will be careful to not waste a lot of money optimizing because otherwise i will run out of money.

    by the way, how do i setup a prosper 202 to track juicyads? should i add some {keyword} tags...?
     
  10. POLLITO122

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    Well i have my first stats of 03/14/2013:
    5000 impressions and 0 Clicks. CPC=$0,02 So it costed me $0. If it Was POF it would already have costed me $1.
     
  11. Serious

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    However still no clicks - split test your banner.
     
  12. POLLITO122

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    03-15-2013
    impressions: 307.000
    clicks (unique): 155
    CPC:$0,017
    cost: $2,65
    Click throughs of the landing: 13
    Conversions 0.

    This time i did not install the tracking code correctly, and it did not track the click throughs, but i found some obvious non converters, with a CTR of 1,5% or so, and a very odd lander that gave me like 60 clicks (and users were paid to view pics).

    Furthermore i modified my lander Online Casual Date: iHookup, this time points to a different aff link (also from ihookup), and i placed a big pic of a masturbating lady to emulate the landing of the aff link. I also Added Comments and changed the whole sales text to match the new aff link,.
     
  13. K

    K Administrator Administrator affiliate

    Very cheap traffic, shame on no conversions tho - is there different placement available?
     
  14. mattyboy

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    Just my 0.02. Try a sharper image on your lander, there is a MASSIVE amount of pictures available and also watch for spelling mistakes. Personally, I'd ditch the comments on that type of lander but I haven't ran adult dating enough to know if it makes a huge difference. My thought is, these guys are coming from watching adult videos/pictures, they wanna fuck, not read! For the 3 points, I would try something along the lines of 1. Signup for FREE 2. Find a Girl you Like 3. Meet & Fuck. Maybe try without the arrow and countdown and add some call to action to the button, flashing or something and some action text. You can always test out different text and combinations to see what works best. Same goes for the picture. Also see if it helps if the page is sized in such a way that the person doesn't have to scroll.

    As mentioned, is just my 0.02. I haven't ran adult dating so is just a guess at best, nothing has been tried. Keep up the good work, you definitely seem like you're going in the right direction.

    There are some solid designers on here who could help you out with a picture, logo, even page if needed at some of the most reasonable rates and fastest turnaround times I've seen, no joke!

    Good luck! :)
     
  15. POLLITO122

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    When the sistem tracks a conversion, it gies you the opportunity to make a direct purchase on the site from were the conversion came.

    During the weekend, i moved the max CPC to 0,015 that is the minimum, so i had very few traffic:

    03/17/2013
    Impressions: 19911
    clicks: 14
    click throughs of my lander: 4 (that's like a 28%)
    CPC: $0,00168
    Cost:$0,235
    Conversions:0
    Then, the next day i had traffic from new websites, and 130 clicks were from places that had to remove for giving too low CTR in my lander.

    03/18/2013
    Impressions: 658000
    Clicks: 303
    click throughs of my lander: 24
    CPC: $0,0013
    Cost:$3,9
    Conversions:0

    I asked to the peerfly forum why i did not have conversions, and someone said that my lander was too slow (like 20 or 30 seconds in total), so i began to erase things and tide the mess generated by dozens of lander changes. the load time dropped to less than one second in the lander +2,8 seconds the redirect. The bad news is that i had to remove the tracking 202 and the discuss comments. I will test tomorrow again to see if my actual problem was load times.

    As i had to remove the tracking 202, next data will be taken from a different source.
     
  16. mattyboy

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    Try using whichloadsfaster.com. Will let you know the exact load time for the site. I use for all my landers... Try it out. I would definitely leave prosper on.
     
  17. K

    K Administrator Administrator affiliate

    Any updates on this?
     
  18. POLLITO122

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    Yes, tody i had the RON running all night, but as i have weeded almost all waste traffick, i did only spend $1.3 but had like 25 click throughs, However i continue without converting. Today a guy in the peerfly forum, told me to also remove the redirection of the aff link to make it still faster, that only makes it less than a second faster and i cannot track anything, but as i have already weeded a lot of traffic (with less than $10 of expenditure), i can try to run wild for now.

    Now i will also have to make new banners if i want to scale, because most of the wasted traffic, were sites with more than 1% of ctr, tat charged me like 40 clicks for nothing, so the average CTR of my banners dropped from 0,06% to 0,02%.
     
  19. K

    K Administrator Administrator affiliate

    Yeah I would split test multiple banners, it may be worth visiting the sites your appearing on and seeing what others are doing.
     
  20. POLLITO122

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    03/20/2013
    Impressions: 1.000.000
    Clicks: 309
    click throughs of my lander: 40 or 50
    CPC: $0,013
    Cost:$3,96
    Conversions:0

    From here i decided to change the affiliate link because this so low ammount of conversions was suspicious, so i googled "ihookup affiliates" and i found loaded cash, the site from were aff networks are brokering sites like ihookup, the aff Manager sent me an aff link from their best lander, and before i had opportunity to realize, i had already 2 free signups (a converting rate of 20% or 25%), the problem here is that they do not pay free signups and i have to wait until someone decides to purchase a membership, but a free signup is the same as the networks consider a lead, so i decided to trust in this new website, because at least i got my first lead in a lot of time.

    Then i increased my max CPC to $0,02 and added new banners, i had a bit of trouble because new sites began to send traffic, and some had to be weeded. My conversion rate began to drop at the beginning, but once i discovered that one new website was generating a lot of clicks, CTR, and click throughs but in my view, was not likely at all to generate a converion, the conversions began to recover. But anyway, i did not have 6 leads in a day since 2010, and then i ended earning 2000€ a day that they did not pay me.

    The day isn't still over, but i spent $7 from where almost $2,6 had to be weeded. I had 6 signups (should be like $20 in revenue in an average network, but i'm in the pay per sale program), and a conversion rate of a free signup for every 10 clicks (i reached like 1:16 and i got a bit nervous,but it began to recover after weeding sites).

    Now i'll have to cross my fingers to look my account and find a sale.

    For obvious reasons, for now on i will not disclose my lander, I moved it from where it was.
     

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