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Landing page process

Discussion in 'Newbie Helpdesk' started by Stano, May 22, 2015.

  1. Stano

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    Hey everyone, before i begin my campaigns, I just have few questions about landing pages.

    1) What is the purpose of split testing direct linking and landing page linking?

    2) How do landing page split testing work?

    For example, I've seen people test like 3 landing pages so how would that work exactly? Would they have 1 domain and 1 server and then upload the different files to that one server?

    3) Do the names of the domain matter to the related niche/vertical?

    For example, if I'm doing a law vertical then will the name of the .com domain have to be related to the vertical or can it be anything?

    4) Does it have to be a .com domain or can it be anything and are .com domains better?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Stano

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    Any answers anyone?

    Thanks.
     
  3. captain47

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    Hey Stano,

    Let me answer you quickly:

    1) What is the purpose of split testing direct linking and landing page linking?

    To see which performs better. Some advertisers will already have amazing landing pages for their offers, in that case you need not build your own. But you can know that only if you test it.

    2) How do landing page split testing work?

    For example, I've seen people test like 3 landing pages so how would that work exactly? Would they have 1 domain and 1 server and then upload the different files to that one server?


    They all will usually be on the same domain and server. Here are few things that you test in a landing page:

    - LP Design
    - Headline
    - Images
    - Call To Action (CTA)
    - Colors
    - Sales Copy

    Say you found 3 images you could use, you will have three landing page variants where everything except the image is the same.

    3) Do the names of the domain matter to the related niche/vertical?

    For example, if I'm doing a law vertical then will the name of the .com domain have to be related to the vertical or can it be anything?


    It does to a very tiny extend, esp. if you are on desktop. But you need not register different domains for each offer. Pick a generic domain for a vertical and use it. Dont waste money on domains.

    4) Does it have to be a .com domain or can it be anything and are .com domains better?

    Buy one dot com domain. This is not very relevant as to your initial testing. Buy one domain or two and use it everywhere.
     
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  4. Stano

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    Thanks a lot for the reply @captain47 !

    Thanks for the answers, I understand now. Although I do have more questions.

    You said to...
    Does this mean that on a single server and a single domain that I could split test different offers aswell? Is that possible?

    Thanks.
     
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    Does this mean that on a single server and a single domain that I could split test different offers aswell? Is that possible?

    Yes, just like @wigan01 said.
     
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  7. Stano

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    Ahh thanks a lot man! Still got a few more questions.

    For each offer within the same vertical I choose to use in a campaign, do I create a subfolder for each offer? So for example; I could have 10 subfolders of the original domain all containing different offers but related to the same vertical? Is this possible and ideal?

    What type of VPS is best for me to use? A dedicated one or shared or CDN VPS?

    What sort of offers are best for a newbie like myself? For example; zip/email submits, Survey, SOI, DOI, etc.

    Am I best getting started into desktop or mobile offers?

    Is it a good idea to optimise an offer for both desktop and mobile traffic? For example; send desktop traffic to a desktop landing page on the server and send mobile traffic to a mobile landing page on the server. Both of these landing pages send the user to the same offer.

    Thanks!
     
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  8. captain47

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    Man, let me try:

    For each offer within the same vertical I choose to use in a campaign, do I create a subfolder for each offer? So for example; I could have 10 subfolders of the original domain all containing different offers but related to the same vertical? Is this possible and ideal?

    It doesn't matter, its up to you. Organize it how you like it.

    It could be something like:

    Offer1/LandingPage1
    Offer1/LandingPage2
    Offer1/LandingPage3
    Offer2/LandingPage1
    Offer3/LandingPage1

    For the end user, it doesn't matter at all.

    What type of VPS is best for me to use? A dedicated one or shared or CDN VPS?

    Dedicated would be expensive, and shared would be too cheap esp for specific traffic types. VPS is ideal. I use a cloud host btw, called Cloudways (non-aff link). They use Digital Ocean servers and the base plan starts at just 5$ per month. If you are going for the base plan, make sure they have only a domain or two on it.

    What sort of offers are best for a newbie like myself? For example; zip/email submits, Survey, SOI, DOI, etc.

    SOI's and Lead gens. Go for an offer that pays from 0.5$ to 1$ range. Ask your affiliate manager for the top offers on the network by volume.

    Am I best getting started into desktop or mobile offers?

    I have never used paid traffic on desktop, so I cant tell you. I hear that desktop is easier than Mobile. Ask this as a new post on this forum man.

    Is it a good idea to optimise an offer for both desktop and mobile traffic? For example; send desktop traffic to a desktop landing page on the server and send mobile traffic to a mobile landing page on the server. Both of these landing pages send the user to the same offer.

    That could work. Make sure you have proper tracking setup. I recommend Voluum and its the most awesome tracker and analytic tool I have ever used.

    Good luck man.
     
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  9. Stano

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    Thanks for the answers again man, means a lot!

    What sort of applications do you recommend for creating landing pages? Im not sure between dreamweaver and muse? (I don't want to pay for any such as using services like the Landingpageguys)

    Can anyone show me some examples of landing pages (either desktop or mobile) of which lead on to email/zip submits / lead-gens?

    Thanks guys!
     
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  11. Stano

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    Wouldn't you recommend any programs to build desktop landing pages which are fast? Muse/Dreamweaver/Artisteer etc.?

    How much also would you recommend a newbie like me to start with to get a their first campaign up and running?

    Also, as i'm going to be using email/zip submits / lead-gens for my campaign and using offers with payouts that are $0.50 - $1.6, what countries am I best to target? I understand that traffic to countries like the USA is more expensive than traffic to Norway for example.
     
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    Wouldn't you recommend any programs to build desktop landing pages which are fast? Muse/Dreamweaver/Artisteer etc.?

    I dont use any man. You should probably look around this forum.

    How much also would you recommend a newbie like me to start with to get a their first campaign up and running?

    Zero. Dont spend a buck to get your campaign up and running. Use free landers, design your own ads and do it. Then once the campaign is running, spend 10x the offer payout and see what happens. We will take it from there.

    Also, as i'm going to be using email/zip submits / lead-gens for my campaign and using offers with payouts that are $0.50 - $1.6, what countries am I best to target? I understand that traffic to countries like the USA is more expensive than traffic to Norway for example.

    Find the cheapest traffic on your traffic source. Get a balance between price and volume (like some traffic would be so cheap, but there would be only 500 impressions per day. Thats no good). Then ask your Affman for offers on that Geo's.

    Get started mate, you have all the information you need :)
     
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  13. Stano

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    Thanks a lot man :) The only thing stopping me right now is my budget.

    What I meant by the second question (How much also would you recommend a newbie like me to start with to get a their first campaign up and running?) was how much of a budget do you recommend for me to start with? I'm going to be creating all of the ads and landing pages myself.

    As I'm going to be aiming at tier 2 countries for my traffic source, my landing page is going to have to be in a different language. How do I translate them proper and professionally without any errors?

    Thanks!
     
  14. captain47

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    Make 1000$.

    And be ready to lose it all without a single penny of it coming back. And then spend it wisely on campaigns. Dont spend that 1000 on a single offer though.

    I use Google Translate, however, you can use Translation Services - One Hour Translation
     
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  15. Stano

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    So test an offer until 10x the offer payout and see what the ROI is? If not 10x then how many?

    Have you been successful using google translator? Just because it can not be precise sometimes

    Also, what are good quality traffic sources for desktop offers? I know that people say to begin with to use 7search but I've heard that 7search traffic isn't very good at all.
     
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    - I either use translator or I learn the language using Memrise.

    - I am 100% mobile. Zero desktop experience. Ask the forum
     
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    So what sort of mobile offers are best to run for a newbie like myself?

    Also, what are some good legit mobile traffic sources that work?
     
  18. CoolSpot

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    I use ads bridge for my tracking, they have a landing page builder built into the platform, I cant tell you what it's like though as I have never used it, Depending on the time scale i am working to will depend on what i use, if i need something done quick just to test then i set it up in webflow (theres a link in my sig that will get you $20 off if you decide to upgrade the account from a free account, or just google webflow), it's a drag and drop site creation suite that uses bootstrap as it's framework so it's very easy to get all your pages looking good on desktop and mobile. it's also very easy to add in things like animations and effects and they have some great tutorials on using the platform. If I have a bit of time on my hands I use Notepad++ but I'm starting to use it less now that I'm using webflow.

    Both ads bridge and webflow are free and defiantly worth checking out. Ads bridge has great support and they are always happy to assist with anything you need help with :)

    My personal advice would be to stay away from Dreamweaver, the code it puts out is a mess, never used muse, but as far as i know it's subscription only (let me know if im wrong on this one, id like to take a look at it) If you need a program like dreamweaver so you can see what you are building I really cant recomend webflow enough

    I am purly a Desktop guy at the moment, the best place to get your traffic is going to be dependent on what your offer is, find the offer, then look at the types of sites that you think your customer will be visiting, find out who has the adspace (inspect element on your right click may help with this ;) ) and then look at their pricing etc.

    I run mainly adult, haven't ventured out of it yet but I am assuming that the bassic premise of getting the traffic is the same
     
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  19. captain47

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    I have to disagree on this: " the best place to get your traffic is going to be dependent on what your offer is " for a newbie. Pivoting on the offer will be harder. Instead Pivot around a traffic source and find offers that matches it.

    Offers go down all the time man. By the time you are profitable, the offer will be gone. But if you know your traffic, you can always find matching offers and replace it.

    Also going after traffic source based on offer means depositing money in multiple accounts and having to learn multiple interfaces and deal with multiple add approval and support teams. Too much hassle when you dont know what you are doing.
     
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  20. CoolSpot

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    That's a good point and one I had not considered. It's the way I find my traffic sources though after trying a few different ways of trying to get highly targeted traffic, if i was going to run payday loans, i would be looking at who has the adspace on the loan comparison sites as this is where people in need , but then I only tend to stick to a few offer types at the moment so that dosnt really cause to much of an issue for me as I always have an offer ready to replace the last that will fit within the same adspace. I found that doing it this way was what worked for me, but then like I said I do adult, and the offers are all pretty much the same, only thing that changes are the keywords and banner graphics.

    Op mentioned that he was looking at offers in "law" personally I think op should choose a few offers within law, like personal injery, will writing ( cant think of anything else they do lol) find out what the relation points on the offers are, once you find the relation point in the offers then it gets rid of the need for multiple accounts. But like you said, depending on the OP's background this might be a lot to learn in one go.
     
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